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Unfairness of mandatory A-levels

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    (Original post by AvWOW)
    And sometimes it's all a matter of chance and luck. Not everyone is obviously privileged by such opportunities and no, no one is obligated to make it as such.
    I don't know where you live, but you are obligated when your parents make you.

    Because this is life and it's riddled with unfairness. And as humans and adults we should accept it. Life is no Disney movie to "believe" in everyone.
    I wonder what kind of parenting you've had and what kind of closed mind you have if you don't believe in everyone. I'm glad I do. I believed in everyone and I made everyone pass in my class. See my other post. Limits don't exist.

    I'm sorry that your University experience was so dreadful, but again, considering the circumstances of life, we all have to face it. At least we have 3 meals a day, a roof over our heads and a chance to educate ourselves to begin with.
    I can't afford 3 meals a day.
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    (Original post by DarkEnergy)
    Good troll.
    You go in as well.
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    I don't think anyone has watched the videos, otherwise they wouldn't be writing these kind of answers that show inexperience.
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    (Original post by DarkEnergy)
    Not sure, but I really hope it is a troll post. For OP's sake.
    I know right... With his ability to hold a discussion (add everyone who disagrees with me to an ignore list) and his arguments, I'm honestly not surprised that it took him 10 years to get his degree. If anything, it shows that some people just aren't worthy of higher education.
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    (Original post by 571122)
    I don't know where you live, but you are obligated when your parents make you.


    I wonder what kind of parenting you've had and what kind of closed mind you have if you don't believe in everyone. I'm glad I do. I believed in everyone and I made everyone pass in my class. See my other post. Limits don't exist.


    I can't afford 3 meals a day.
    "I don't know where you live, but you are obligated when your parents make you."

    What? The world is obligated to be fair when my parents make me?? I don't think you understand what I said.


    "I wonder what kind of parenting you've had and what kind of closed mind you have if you don't believe in everyone. I'm glad I do. I believed in everyone and I made everyone pass in my class. See my other post. Limits don't exist."

    So charming of you to comment on my parents and perspective. Tell's me a lot about you actually. I guess you think the world ought to go straight from A to Z. Wake up call; It doesn't. It's not being close minded. I'm telling you what really happens although YOU choose to be close-minded to comprehend no understanding of how the world works.Why don't you go say all this to the fine folks of Harvard, MIT, Yale, Cambridge and Oxbridge? Cause there's is a fine line between being a unique thinker and a useless thinker.
    And I also suppose you will devote your entire life to helping educate people for free too then. Everyone helps their colleagues in school; nothing too special. I want to know if even you think it's possible to practice these noble preachings you say.

    "I can't afford 3 meals a day."
    That's my point; life isn't fair.
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    Nice bragging thread
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    [QUOTE=AvWOW;67784818]"I don't know where you live, but you are obligated when your parents make you."

    What? The world is obligated to be fair when my parents make me?? I don't think you understand what I said.
    I said some parents make you go into higher education and you have no choice. Watch the movie Dead poets society and you'll understand.

    I'm telling you what really happens although YOU choose to be close-minded to comprehend no understanding of how the world works.
    Are you this demi-God that knows everything now? At least I don't claim to know how the world works.
    Why don't you go say all this to the fine folks of Harvard, MIT, Yale, Cambridge and Oxbridge? Cause there's is a fine line between being a unique thinker and a useless thinker.
    I did, actually. I was head of student council and I told them how disgusting their practices were. I stood up for the lower working class, something which takes guts and integrity.
    Let's not forget those people are useless chained thinkers, chained to their bureaucracy. Bureaucracy must come down. We need liberty. Tear down the walls of politics.

    And I also suppose you will devote your entire life to helping educate people for free too then.
    Yes, it's called having a heart.

    Everyone helps their colleagues in school; nothing too special. I want to know if even you think it's possible to practice these noble preachings you say.
    That is untrue. No one in my class bothered to help each other, and if they did, it wasn't to the degree I helped them. I was their substitute professor, basically. I wasn't the average lazy student who provided one-off answers like most students, but I actually wrote entire books and explanations on the courses so that struggling students could figure everything out that the selfish professors refused to because they assumed we are these ultra-intelligent auto-didactic aliens, much to their mistaking.

    I maintain integrity, something younger people should learn.
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    (Original post by AvWOW)
    "I don't know where you live, but you are obligated when your parents make you."


    I said some parents make you go into higher education and you have no choice. Watch the movie Dead poets society and you'll understand.


    Are you this demi-God that knows everything now? At least I don't claim to know how the world works.

    I did, actually. I was head of student council and I told them how disgusting their practices were. I stood up for the lower working class, something which takes guts and integrity.
    Let's not forget those people are useless chained thinkers, chained to their bureaucracy. Bureaucracy must come down. We need liberty. Tear down the walls of politics.


    Yes, it's called having a heart.


    That is untrue. No one in my class bothered to help each other, and if they did, it wasn't to the degree I helped them. I was their substitute professor, basically. I wasn't the average lazy student who provided one-off answers like most students, but I actually wrote entire books and explanations on the courses so that struggling students could figure everything out that the selfish professors refused to because they assumed we are these ultra-intelligent auto-didactic aliens, much to their mistaking.

    I maintain integrity, something younger people should learn.
    "I said some parents make you go into higher education and you have no choice. Watch the movie Dead poets society and you'll understand. "
    Of course everyone should attempt higher education whether their parents agree with it or not. It's a human right! I'm saying not everyone will receive it in the premium quality and there is no way you can expect it to be so.

    "Are you this demi-God that knows everything now? At least I don't claim to know how the world works."
    No but you must be some Demi-god if you think you can make the world run the perfect way you say it should. Also, it's merely common sense to know how the world system works.

    "I did, actually. I was head of student council and I told them how disgusting their practices were. I stood up for the lower working class, something which takes guts and integrity.
    Let's not forget those people are useless chained thinkers, chained to their bureaucracy. Bureaucracy must come down. We need liberty. Tear down the walls of politics."

    Head of Student Council in Yale?
    Yeah you can resort to that completely delusional method or help by being more useful instead of whining. It's great that you are helping your colleagues. But see, most of the students in these great institution are gifted and prodigal or had sacrificed more than anything we can imagine to get to that stage. And you still say everyone is equal? No. Everyone is unique though. And we should work with what we have instead of whining about how the mean old baddies at Oxbridge didn't accept us. Even I am an average student, and I admire these universities profoundly. But of course, I know they too are running a business and they their intentions are not to be the most idealistic and altruistic. Rather, to maintain prestige.
    Not going to high ranked universities doesn't deem one unintelligent, just not at the expected standard.
    no one is to blame for that. Grow up a bit.

    "And I maintain integrity, something younger people should learn "
    You're obviously not very humble though.
    Just because you feel sorry for yourself and everyone else's situation, doesn't mean you are entitled things.
    Either way, I guess you're too stubborn to listen to anyone else. So cheers and good luck finding any fulfillment on your ludicrous expectations of the world.
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    A levels aren't compulsory and you can get into university with Us if you want to. Any more questions?
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    So cheers and good luck finding any fulfillment on your ludicrous expectations of the world.
    Hear hear! I shall be one of the pioneers!
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    Education is not the be all and end all of having a happy life. I have spent a lot of time working with children in my school's Special Education Needs Department. Every day, I see and work with children with a plethora of difficulties both on and off the autistic spectrum, physical and mental. I know for a fact that many of them would not stand a chance with higher education, but yet they are some of the happiest people I know - they are grateful for what they do have, rather than wanting for what they do not. Going to university and/or achieving academic success are two things upon which they have not set their focus, because they know it is not for them.

    And that's okay. They couldn't care less, because they couldn't care less about going to university - the whole concept holds no value to them.

    If anyone's parents 'force' them into higher education against their will they should try to explain why they don't want to do that, and then refuse. Pretty much every applicant into university is over 18, and as a result would have the full weight of the law behind them in making that decision. Furthermore, universities want candidates who are genuinely motivated to study the course for which they are applying, and will probably therefore render the application of such an applicant unsuccessful.

    The world in which we live operates economically. Money is what drives our society, and it creates a self-fulfilling prophecy; money becomes required for essentials such as food and money then becomes essential. It's all very noble to propose to teach others for free, but one has to wonder how you would feed yourself, or where you would live. Could you not be more successful and help more people if you were to utilise money? Think Bill Gates: through becoming the richest person alive, he has been able to do a huge amount of good in the world. Sometimes you have to be selfish before you can be selfless!
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    (Original post by SummerStrawberry)
    Education is not the be all and end all of having a happy life.
    Education leads to good money, which leads to being able to pay the bills and not sweat about it. Do you really love struggling to pay bills every month? I sure don't.

    they are grateful for what they do have, rather than wanting for what they do not.
    Ok, but I don't believe in limitations.

    Going to university and/or achieving academic success are two things upon which they have not set their focus, because they know it is not for them.
    Then you have not heard of a doctor who successfully turned a child with Down Syndrome into a very smart child. He actually raised his IQ by 30 points over the course of 30 years.

    Pretty much every applicant into university is over 18, and as a result would have the full weight of the law behind them in making that decision.
    Riiight, you must be living in some sort of democracy happy land where parents don't beat you and threaten you. Here's a parental lesson if you didn't happen to learn it yet: you never talk back to your parents. You might want to watch Russell Peters' videos to see my point.

    The world in which we live operates economically. Money is what drives our society,
    I don't think so. Of course, it depends on what you mean by 'drives'.

    It's all very noble to propose to teach others for free, but one has to wonder how you would feed yourself, or where you would live.
    Has it come across your mind to be self-sustainable and help others at the same time?

    Think Bill Gates: through becoming the richest person alive, he has been able to do a huge amount of good in the world. Sometimes you have to be selfish before you can be selfless!
    No thanks, I don't support Bill Gates.

    Has the idea come to your thoughts before of food being universally free? What is all this need for 'money' and 'trading for goods and services'. In a great society, people would share with each other without betrayal.
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    "Education leads to good money, which leads to being able to pay the bills and not sweat about it. Do you really love struggling to pay bills every month? I sure don't."

    True. Education is the most powerful catalyst here. However, education by traditional methods does not work for everyone, so it's important to make the distinction between schooling (including higher education) and education - the two are not mutually exclusive, but distinct things often grouped together, wrongly in my opinion.

    This video illustrates the point which I am trying to make, here.

    "Ok, but I don't believe in limitations."

    There are limitations, and not to recognise that is akin to not recognising that the Laws of Physics exist. Unlike the Laws of Physics, these limitations can be overcome, but often at great hardship and expense - financial and personal. Sometimes it can be better to resign oneself to one's own limitations in one field for the purposes of focusing on another field. For example, if I wanted to overcome the limitation in how far I could run, I could do that and become a professional athlete. I have no desire to do that, so I have my focus on what I do have a desire to do, which at the moment means my A-Levels. The point is that I could overcome that limitation, but it's not worth it.

    "Then you have not heard of a doctor who successfully turned a child with Down Syndrome into a very smart child. He actually raised his IQ by 30 points over the course of 30 years."

    If that started at the age of five, the child's IQ was raised by 30 points by the time they reached their 35th birthday. I'm not going to go into how IQ bears only a fleeting reference to one's intelligence, but that's quite a lot of time and effort. Would the individual in question have been happy without that intervention? Quite possibly. One can never know for sure, but it's quite probable that the net benefit to the child was not proportional to the effort expended.

    "Riiight, you must be living in some sort of democracy happy land where parents don't beat you and threaten you. Here's a parental lesson if you didn't happen to learn it yet: you never talk back to your parents. You might want to watch Russell Peters' videos to see my point."

    In all seriousness, if that happens to anybody, they should be phoning the police.

    "I don't think so. Of course, it depends on what you mean by 'drives'."

    Money is what motivates a huge number of people to do what they do. Human ingenuity is generally done for the purpose of individual gain (hence we have patents, so that people can be motivated to make something without their work being taken by someone else). In that way, money drives our civilisation.

    "Has it come across your mind to be self-sustainable and help others at the same time?"

    Yes, and that is what - when I start earning my own money - I intend to do.

    "Has the idea come to your thoughts before of food being universally free? What is all this need for 'money' and 'trading for goods and services'. In a great society, people would share with each other without betrayal."

    Many times. I have often wondered about how different the world would be if we did this. It sounds great, but I feel that it would result in a system of obligation and oppression and stifle innovation. To make it work, there would have to be a legal obligation to farmers, for example, to farm enough crops. Ignoring problems with bad harvests etc., how do you keep people farming? You have to legally oblige them to. So that it doesn't stop when they die, their children also have to be farmers. Likewise for other professions.

    Although not a legal one, many children in countries around the world have an obligation to the career path followed by their parents, and their parents before them, and their parents before them, into time immemorial. The amount of potential that is wasted there is huge. Thousands of potential scientists, engineers, artists, politicians, etc., are obligated to remain in agriculture for their family or village. I feel that this would be a difficult trap to avoid.

    Technology breeds technology. Combine harvesters and tractors have reduced the workload of farmers, thereby reducing their numbers. Those who would have been farmers then come into cities and towns, working in other areas. The jet engine would not have been invented if we all had to work on a farm to feed ourselves. The computer would not have been invented if we all had to work on a farm to feed ourselves. Inventions and innovations can only come about because those working on them can rely on the services of others to account for their other needs. Humans can specialise in any area that they want.

    The only reason that this works is because we can exchange something of value - money - for something else of value (food/clothes/a house etc.).

    I love the idea. I think it would be fantastic if it worked. But I don't think it's quite feasible, at least not in today's society.
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    (Original post by 571122)
    Has the idea come to your thoughts before of food being universally free? What is all this need for 'money' and 'trading for goods and services'. In a great society, people would share with each other without betrayal.
    Communist smh

    You say you want teachers to work for free but go on about getting an education to pay the bills, absolute hypocrite.
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    (Original post by SugarCoatedCart)
    Communist smh

    You say you want teachers to work for free but go on about getting an education to pay the bills, absolute hypocrite.
    That is correct, I am a communist and socialist and I'm proud of it.
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    OP is the exact kind of person who shouldn't be going to university, and wasting both their time and his own.
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    (Original post by ohgodwhatamidoin)
    OP is the exact kind of person who shouldn't be going to university, and wasting both their time and his own.
    Would you like to meet the 'report post' button?
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    (Original post by SummerStrawberry)
    This video illustrates the point which I am trying to make, here.
    I agree with him on the point that universities destroy and stigmatize your individuality. Since day one, ever since my friend and I joined university we were criticized and stigmatized for showing our expressive freedom. We weren't allowed to have an opinion or deviate from the accepted standard. All university years after that have been nothing but total and utter conformity.
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    agreed
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    (Original post by 571122)
    Would you like to meet the 'report post' button?
    I don't think that most people care whether someone like you reports them.

    Still hoping that this is a troll btw
 
 
 
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