MHoC By-Election: Notification

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    This is a silly move by the Speaker, but being the member I am, I have submitted an amendment to correct this bad decision.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Nobody to put up?
    We have me to put up as well as a couple others, we just dont see the point in having a byelection so close to the end of term. I would hope other parties also do the sensible thing and boycott the election.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    This is a silly move by the Speaker, but being the member I am, I have submitted an amendment to correct this bad decision.
    How noble of you.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    How noble of you.
    I hope the MHoC will rally behind an amendment to force the Speaker to delay the by-election to after the General Election. The amendment brings fairness, equality, and justice to the MHoC; all things the left-wing should support.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I hope the MHoC will rally behind an amendment to force the Speaker to delay the by-election to after the General Election. The amendment brings fairness, equality, and justice to the MHoC; all things the left-wing should support.
    ****, that I would agree with actually - PM me the amendment and I may second?
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    How noble of you.
    Goes with the new avatar. It's a brand new Nigel.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I hope the MHoC will rally behind an amendment to force the Speaker to delay the by-election to after the General Election. The amendment brings fairness, equality, and justice to the MHoC; all things the left-wing should support.
    It won't pass so there's no point in submitting it tbh. Labour and Liberals would vote against. That's 20 votes alone.
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    It won't pass so there's no point in submitting it tbh. Labour and Liberals would vote against. That's 20 votes alone.
    True, but just shows how much of a sore loser they all are
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    It won't pass so there's no point in submitting it tbh. Labour and Liberals would vote against. That's 20 votes alone.
    I cannot help your incompetent management which allows voting robots to malfunction, but I can attempt to stop the offending parties escaping punishment for their actions.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I hope the MHoC will rally behind an amendment to force the Speaker to delay the by-election to after the General Election. The amendment brings fairness, equality, and justice to the MHoC; all things the left-wing should support.
    It would be better to remove a seat from offending parties at the next GE and redistribute as if their seats are capped. Just because a by-election after a normal election seems rediculous.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I cannot help your incompetent management which allows voting robots to malfunction, but I can attempt to stop the offending parties escaping punishment for their actions.
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    True, but just shows how much of a sore loser they all are
    (Original post by Aph)
    It would be better to remove a seat from offending parties at the next GE and redistribute as if their seats are capped. Just because a by-election after a normal election seems rediculous.
    The offence was committed this term. We should therefore lose the seat for the rest of this term. There should be no by-election either, we should just spend the rest of this term with 48 seats
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    The offence was committed this term. We should therefore lose the seat for the rest of this term. There should be no by-election either, we should just spend the rest of this term with 48 seats
    But it just means for the final 4 weeks (1/6 of a term) voting effectively doesn't matter. Which shouldn't be something which we just don't care about.
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    The offence was committed this term. We should therefore lose the seat for the rest of this term. There should be no by-election either, we should just spend the rest of this term with 48 seats
    Except that terms are arbitrary so there shouldn't be a distinction made.
    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    But it just means for the final 4 weeks (1/6 of a term) voting effectively doesn't matter. Which shouldn't be something which we just don't care about.
    You, my friend, speak total sense.
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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    But it just means for the final 4 weeks (1/6 of a term) voting effectively doesn't matter. Which shouldn't be something which we just don't care about.
    That's irrelevant seeing as the lack of voting didn't take place in the last 1/6th of the term but the month beforehand
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Except that terms are arbitrary so there shouldn't be a distinction made.

    You, my friend, speak total sense.
    Why, thank you, my friend.


    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    That's irrelevant seeing as the lack of voting didn't take place in the last 1/6th of the term but the month beforehand
    Not really, because it's the punishment that counts... in any voting review, the punishment always comes AFTER the 4 weeks that the poor voting has happened. And yes, I also believe that poor voting (below the % for any seats highlighted) in the period between the final review and the end of the term, should also be punished.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Except that terms are arbitrary so there shouldn't be a distinction made.

    You, my friend, speak total sense.
    I think it would be incredibly harsh for a party to lose a seat for an entire term for something that happened in the previous term

    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    Why, thank you, my friend.



    Not really, because it's the punishment that counts... in any voting review, the punishment always comes AFTER the 4 weeks that the poor voting has happened. And yes, I also believe that poor voting (below the % for any seats highlighted) in the period between the final review and the end of the term, should also be punished.
    That's irrelevant to this case though. In this case, the punishment should still happen this term as the missed votes were before the last review rather than after
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    I think it would be incredibly harsh for a party to lose a seat for an entire term for something that happened in the previous term



    That's irrelevant to this case though. In this case, the punishment should still happen this term as the missed votes were before the last review rather than after
    Except that they proved that they couldn't handle that seat and otherwise it makes voting reviews at the end of the term redundant.
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    I think it would be incredibly harsh for a party to lose a seat for an entire term for something that happened in the previous term



    That's irrelevant to this case though. In this case, the punishment should still happen this term as the missed votes were before the last review rather than after
    Aren't you?Y
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Except that they proved that they couldn't handle that seat and otherwise it makes voting reviews at the end of the term redundant.
    Okay, so what if my party loses a seat at the next election? What then? We lose another seat even though we've proven we can keep at least 7 above 70%?
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    (Original post by PetrosAC)
    Okay, so what if my party loses a seat at the next election? What then? We lose another seat even though we've proven we can keep at least 7 above 70%?
    Yes, to reflect RL where parties with MPs who don't adiquitly reflect their party are booted.
 
 
 
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