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    That is brilliant! I can't even begin to think of the number of threads to which this would be the perfect answer - just change the text and you're done. How did you create it
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    [QUOTE=AperfectBalance;68508540]I already have respect for people that deserve it, I dont need to know how much I have been given.

    I already have experience working outside of education and so do many people

    ' I already have respect for people that deserve it' that show me how little respect you have for people who you don't think are your equal. all human being are equal and deserve to be treated with respect. this include people who have been in trouble with the police, student, people who are poor or rich.
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    (Original post by Reality Check)
    That is brilliant! I can't even begin to think of the number of threads to which this would be the perfect answer - just change the text and you're done. How did you create it
    Had to be done
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    :rofl:

    You're my new favourite person today.
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    lol I'm not going to spend a year of my life doing that, and it's just going to use taxpayers money. No thanks
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    (Original post by looloo2134)
    all human being are equal and deserve to be treated with respect
    Yep.

    Which is why foisting 18 yr olds with no training, no enthusiasm, no capability and no desire to help on people going through hard times is beyond moronic.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    lol I'm not going to spend a year of my life doing that, and it's just going to use taxpayers money. No thanks
    It will teach you respect for yourself and other people. you will also learn what you are capable of.
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    (Original post by looloo2134)
    It will teach you respect for yourself and other people. you will also learn what you are capable of.
    No it won't! All it will indicate is that you will be treated as cheap labour for those vulnerable groups in society where the government has made drastic cuts to services.
    And, furthermore, with a son in the Armed Forces, there is no way he would want a sullen 18 year old watching his back on active duty or exercises.
    You're talking out of your arse!
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    (Original post by Seamus123)
    No it won't! All it will indicate is that you will be treated as cheap labour for those vulnerable groups in society where the government has made drastic cuts to services.
    And, furthermore, with a son in the Armed Forces, there is no way he would want a sullen 18 year old watching his back on active duty or exercises.
    You're talking out of your arse!
    do not you bad language. 18 years old have been servicing in the Armed Forces for 100s of years and they have died in active duty. so sullen 18 years old are perfectly capable doing active duty the same as any other adult in the Armed Forces.
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    No. If you want to do community service, be our guest. No one is specifically stopping you from doing it. It's not volunteering or a good deed if the alternative is punishment.
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    (Original post by looloo2134)
    do not you bad language. 18 years old have been servicing in the Armed Forces for 100s of years and they have died in active duty. so sullen 18 years old are perfectly capable doing active duty the same as any other adult in the Armed Forces.
    You're forgetting one simple fact. Or ignoring. Or are just stupid and not considering it:

    Choice.
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    You're forgetting one simple fact. Or ignoring. Or are just stupid and not considering it:

    Choice.
    Exactly!
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    (Original post by looloo2134)
    People who just finished school should made to do Community Services for a year after finishing school. If they refused to take part they will get a criminal record and their passport taken from them for five years.

    the service should be in 4 parts of 3 months.over a year
    1) working and living in a homeless hostel for three months
    2) living and working in a nursing home for three months
    3) Work and living with children in care for three months
    4) working and living with people with learning disability.
    I'm all for encouraging folk to try out volunteering and helping out the needy/vulnerable etc.

    HOWEVER what you are suggesting is ridiculous!
    First off, the school leavers that want to attend further education such as College/University would have to put back their plans for that year, which (if it was me) would piss me off a treat!
    If they are being made to do Community Services then i take it they will not be paid, so they will be financially worse off than when they left school (great just what you need before going onto Uni).
    Working with children in care? An 18 year old with no experience or qualifications in this field? me thinks not! (no disrespect to any 18 yos!)

    Finally to give someone a criminal record and removal of passport for 5 years? Are you high???

    Look your 'idea' is not a bad thing per se, but i think you are going about it the wrong way.
    Offering it as an option to school leavers could be good for those people interested in a career in caring for the elderly/children/homeless, nursing, etc with the year providing them credit/training towards their future courses.
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    National Service is only worth having if the country needs it for security
    -Israel
    -South Korea
    -Cyprus

    Britain doesn't need
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    (Original post by Drewski)
    You're forgetting one simple fact. Or ignoring. Or are just stupid and not considering it:

    Choice.
    Do not used abusive language toward me because you disagree with me that show you as being childish. Your comments are showing you as believing you are better them me which you are. Also never use words moronic or stupid against other people because they are used to belittle people with learning disabilitieshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moron_(psychology)
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    (Original post by looloo2134)
    do not you bad language. 18 years old have been servicing in the Armed Forces for 100s of years and they have died in active duty. so sullen 18 years old are perfectly capable doing active duty the same as any other adult in the Armed Forces.
    18 year olds nowadays have a choice of wether to join up or not.
    18 year olds in ages past, did not, however the world was in a very different state back then than it is now. Young men were signed up due to imminent War.

    Having served in the Armed Forces myself i can honestly say i would rather serve alongside a man/woman that voluntarily joined as apposed to someone 'forced' into it.
    But that's just me ;-)
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    (Original post by Nicky83)
    18 year olds nowadays have a choice of wether to join up or not.
    18 year olds in ages past, did not, however the world was in a very different state back then than it is now. Young men were signed up due to imminent War.

    Having served in the Armed Forces myself i can honestly say i would rather serve alongside a man/woman that voluntarily joined as apposed to someone 'forced' into it.
    But that's just me ;-)
    You're new to this argument aren't you? Didn't you know opinion (from armchair generals) trumps real life experience?

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    Being ex forces myself my position is exactly the same as yours
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    (Original post by moonkatt)
    You're new to this argument aren't you? Didn't you know opinion (from armchair generals) trumps real life experience?

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    Being ex forces myself my position is exactly the same as yours
    Thirded. Also ex-serving.
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    Lol obvious troll is obvious
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    (Original post by looloo2134)
    People who just finished school should made to do Community Services for a year after finishing school
    This is not dissimilar from a concept I had in my younger years. They do this in other countries and it does help young people find their feet/some discipline/direction and to make a difference It should apply it to able bodied NEETs

    1) working and living in a homeless hostel for three months
    2) living and working in a nursing home for three months
    3) Work and living with children in care for three months
    4) working and living with people with learning disability
    Personally I'd suggest that the rotations should be optional, and should include the option of reserve military service, police community support, and general outdoor work. Also, working with vulnerable people involves risks to all parties involved, and working with people with learning disabilities really requires specialist training and people with a particular temperament
 
 
 
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