2:2 degree.....is it the end of the world :( Watch

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(Original post by Angelic_19)
Is a Masters the way forward????...the job market is ridiculously competitive, i would've thought work experience is better???
no!! you need at least a 2:1 to compete for the top £30k+ job. my cousin got a 2:2 in Economics and found it very hard to get a job, so he specialised in a Quantity Surveying Masters and got a job before he even qualified!!
he gets paid over 30k and has a company car....
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Nah, not the end of the world.

Just the end of a particularly prosperous life. Unless you play the lottery daily. In which case it's just the beginning
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Banking? what sort?
2:2 isnt the end. a MSc or MA will help.

Only downside is most Uni's ask for a 2.1, but im sure if you explain to the admissions officers, provide scripts of your scores etc...i mean there is the harsh reality that people miss out on courses being 1% off a grade, but by no means is it over.

Are you thinking about finance related career?
Initially i wanted to get into IB....but that's obviously out of the window. However i've been told that i could easily do lots of admin work at at IB...to get my foot in the door????
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Nah, not the end of the world.

Just the end of a particularly prosperous life. Unless you play the lottery daily. In which case it's just the beginning
That's not funny that's exactly what i'm disheartened about ....
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(Original post by Angelic_19)
Initially i wanted to get into IB....but that's obviously out of the window. However i've been told that i could easily do lots of admin work at at IB...to get my foot in the door????
admin is perhaps a start but working at a bank is not "getting your foot in the door" as such... have you thought about what type of job in a bank you wanted to do?
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no!! you need at least a 2:1 to compete for the top £30k+ job. my cousin got a 2:2 in Economics and found it very hard to get a job, so he specialised in a Quantity Surveying Masters and got a job before he even qualified!!
he gets paid over 30k and has a company car....
lol. £30k is not a 'top job' - it's pretty average actually...
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Did you really just graduate university OP? You sound very naive and immature.
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That's not funny that's exactly what i'm disheartened about ....
Sorry :'(

I don't really know what I can say about the topic tbh, except: Plenty of people get 2:2s and end up amazingly rich (either via luck, hard work, working their way up or whatever) and plenty of people get First class degrees and end up working in supermarkets.

It isn't the end of the world, for sure. You're obviously not in the most privileged position, but you can still do it! Just a bit of a challenge to add to the fun, really :woo:
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1.7 % off a 2:1...stops me from the zillions oof opportunities in this world.

Also....surely a high 2:2 from Queen Mary is ten times better than a 2:1 from Middlesex/Westminst/Hertfordshire/Brunel or any of the lower tier polytechnic uni's....if not the same?
Surely employer's wouldn't just dispose my application against candidates from the uni's mentioned above?
I honestly don't mean that in a rude way...but the competition at Qm is of a much higher standard than say Westminister? I know Students at Westminster who have 3 E's or D's at A-level.
Basically 2:1's from university's across the country aren't the same???
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I read an article on Times Online saying that employers are increasingly accepting graduates with 2:2 degrees, being more concerned about other skills and experience than getting a 2:1. Unfortunately I can't find that article now. >_>
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Do you really think so? Yes i know a few people from my degree course who have been temping in canary wharf. I've been advised to even try various admin work in banks for atleast a year...just to bump my CV up..then possibly apply for grad schemes.
sorry what i meant in particular was getting the right sort of work experience...unfortunately, admin work is just admin work regardless of whether it is worked on at a bank or in the back office of a supermarket - granted it is work experience nevertheless.

i'm working in canary wharf at the moment and i've met a few temps who are in admin jobs with similar ideas as you...one or two have managed to make the transition to other roles, such as marketing, but this sort of move is rare.

my advice would be to network as much as possible while you are at the firm, especially with senior people who may take pity and let you get involved in some projects... networking is absolutely key if you are to grasp any opportunities

although i started in different circumstances to you, I've managed in a short time to become involved in some high profile and impact work most of which gained through networking and doing a damn good job...
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no. I read a article in a paper [ can't remember ] but it stated that 2:2 is the new 2:1 to widen the labour market. Experience would be great as well as get a masters.
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I read an article on Times Online saying that employers are increasingly accepting graduates with 2:2 degrees, being more concerned about other skills and experience than getting a 2:1. Unfortunately I can't find that article now. >_>

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4289662.ece

I've read this article already ...lol.
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Did you really just graduate university OP? You sound very naive and immature.
Sorry...i'm just really upset about it. I probably sound like i'm moaning. It's just really brought my ambition and drive down...as i feel that getting my future career is a waste without a 2:1.
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One of my uncles got a 2:2 from Queen Mary, cant remember the subject, something like business/finance. He is now training to be an accountant, so it is not the end of the world. If you can present urslef well in a job interview then you will be fine.
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stop moaning, why didn't you study harder?
Sorry :P ....i did study hard. It was just one of my modules that brought me down.
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One of my uncles got a 2:2 from Queen Mary, cant remember the subject, something like business/finance. He is now training to be an accountant, so it is not the end of the world. If you can present urslef well in a job interview then you will be fine.

Oh ok..... But to be honest..you only need a 2:2 to do the ACCA..i think. Hmmm sounds like an idea :P
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Oh ok..... But to be honest..you only need a 2:2 to do the ACCA..i think. Hmmm sounds like an idea :P
its not my fav career plan, but you can make a lot of money
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its not my fav career plan, but you can make a lot of money
not mine either..lol.
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lol. £30k is not a 'top job' - it's pretty average actually...
i said over 30k!!!
btw the average is 25k
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