Grammar Schools = Higher Offers?

I am guessing that there are more people who want to learn in grammar schools and it isn't so abnormal to want to learn.

it must have been horrendously embarrassing and possibly frustrating to know that whilst they were bottom of the class here they would have been top at a comp.

not true, they would have been middling-top at a comprehensive. just because you go to a comp doesnt mean you cant be at the peak of your age-groups abilities!

Don't forget, generally grammars have the best teachers as life is a lot easier for a grammar teacher so once they go to a grammar, they don't want to go back to a comp.

i went to a comp school for gcses and i think i would have got better results/friends if id had gone to a grammar. but i dont mind as i made up for it with my alevels.

Hey its the original poster, woah! Thanx for all ur replies. Of course a good student can progress and do well at any school, be it comp or gram....but i think there is no argument in the fact that grammer schools povide a better education....they attract better teachers - because most teachers (no matter what they say) wanna teach intelligant kids who have passion for learning, not lil rebel pooheads(i cant swear on this board) who r just mouthy, disruptive and abusive. At my school i have actually experianced things such as whole classes (and this is in top groups) collectivley walking out lessons, throwing rubbish at geeky science teachers.....i often see people hitting teachers...or slamming doors in their faces. Yes my school has a reputation for being bad, and of course their are many postive points about the school ( fantastic arts facilities blah blah blah) but there is no doubt that their are very intelligaint students who r not achieving their best because they r getting pulled down by (or actually are) slackers. I think this makes it quite clear that students at grammer schools will find it easier to reach their full potential, though i am sure that the most clever person from my school could easily rival the most clever gammer school student.

As i said, thank u for ur replies. . .

I think in Comp. Schools you'll find probably two in every class of 30 that are serious about learning and try hard.

Hmm, yeah I think so.

I think in Comp. Schools you'll find probably two in every class of 30 that are serious about learning and try hard. I think that is pretty poor and then the rest just want to piss about and then the teachers think 'Oh well the whole class doesn't care, so what's the point of teaching them properly?'. I am guessing that there are more people who want to learn in grammar schools and it isn't so abnormal to want to learn.

I do believe that many Grammar School students fall into traps such as giving up when they aren't the best or thinking they are safe because they are in a school which educates them well.

What do you think? Are you at Comp. or Grammar School?

Have you got anything to back this vague claim up with?

Grammar schools simply dont provide a better education. Research has shown it.
People like to believe it (especially those who go to Grammars).
Of course there are areas where a Grammar might work better, but the same can be said for the opposite. At my school I had three Oxbridge graduates as teachers, who were also excellent teachers, and our area has the most Grammars in England.

For the millionth time;
Childrenat Comps are streamed for ability.

I think that it is easier to achive in grams (for reasons stated by various posters above). However their are various things that grammar pupils can miss out on. A teacher at my school moved to the local grammar to become head of french, and i have seen her many times and had conversations with her about her new post. She says that (in this case, not all!) all this school ever does is work from exercise books...just go through them all every day untill the book is finished, and then they are passed another exercise book for revision. She said that the work we do at my comp is setting us up more for real life, and univeristy work...we r given more independance and interaction within our lessons. People out our school have to motivate themselfs to work more, which i think is a very valuable skill. Meh...its only my opinion!

I think the common idea is that grammar schools are generally better for a childs education, so why not give them higher offers when theyve had the advantage over everyone else who cant afford a fee paying school.

I think the common idea is that grammar schools are generally better for a childs education, so why not give them higher offers when theyve had the advantage over everyone else who cant afford a fee paying school.