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    Just a point of interest: at my college we were all enouraged to apply right away and defer instead of applying post-results (if we wanted gap years) because there will be a mad rush of people applying for 2005 entry to avoid the fees!
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    (Original post by fionah)
    Just a point of interest: at my college we were all enouraged to apply right away and defer instead of applying post-results (if we wanted gap years) because there will be a mad rush of people applying for 2005 entry to avoid the fees!
    That is so f****** annoying...why must it happen to my year?
    Well, I've just decided to vote Conservative.
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    (Original post by Tek)
    Well, I've just decided to vote Conservative.
    hurrah
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    (Original post by edders)
    hurrah
    Im still voting socialist, maybe on day we will even have an M.P. *dreams*
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    (Original post by edders)
    hurrah
    Time to make a Tory sig

    (Original post by Tek)
    Time to make a Tory sig
    Oh pullleazzze - not another one!
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    (Original post by edders)
    hurrah
    The Lib Dems are also against top up fees. But they'll never get into power, so Tory it is

    (Original post by Tek)
    That is so f****** annoying...why must it happen to my year?
    Well, I've just decided to vote Conservative.
    But it won't affect your year, only those currently in Year 11 - so now what's your excuse for voting Tory (and I don't believe them when they say they won't make people pay more for their higher education or that students/parents won't pay tuition fees(.
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    (Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
    Which may not be a bad thing...
    That is such a snobbish attitude. Yes there are a lot of so-called 'Mickey Mouse' courses around but instead of investing money to improve them or create more places on more important courses, the Conservatives would simply cut over 10% of all higher education places. This could have serious finiancial implications for many institutions, especially the newer universities, and would mean fewer graduates, which our economy requires to continue to compete with other nations.

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    But it won't affect your year, only those currently in Year 11 - so now what's your excuse for voting Tory (and I don't believe them when they say they won't make people pay more for their higher education or that students/parents won't pay tuition fees(.
    They'll just create an elitist university system again instead to save the money

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    (Original post by Unregistered)
    But it won't affect your year, only those currently in Year 11 - so now what's your excuse for voting Tory (and I don't believe them when they say they won't make people pay more for their higher education or that students/parents won't pay tuition fees(.
    Actually, it would, becaue no-one would apply post A Level, because they'd fear the charges, so there'd be more applicants in my year than there would be normally, which equals more competition. And I wouldn't be able to apply post A Level if I wanted to avoid them (ie I'd have one shot at Cambridge).
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    (Original post by hildabeast)
    That is such a snobbish attitude. Yes there are a lot of so-called 'Mickey Mouse' courses around but instead of investing money to improve them or create more places on more important courses, the Conservatives would simply cut over 10% of all higher education places. This could have serious finiancial implications for many institutions, especially the newer universities, and would mean fewer graduates, which our economy requires to continue to compete with other nations.

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    We can only have so many academics. I am not a snob, I just value skills-based jobs as much as any other. Many do not.

    (Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
    Probably 2006 (when I start ) If Labour don't drop the policy before-hand.
    UNLUCKY!!!!

    (Original post by Tek)
    Actually, it would, becaue no-one would apply post A Level, because they'd fear the charges, so there'd be more applicants in my year than there would be normally, which equals more competition. And I wouldn't be able to apply post A Level if I wanted to avoid them (ie I'd have one shot at Cambridge).
    But Tek you will only need one shot at Cambridge! I think if one can't succeed first time round then they are somehow cheating themselves by trying again - but that's just me!
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    (Original post by Lord Huntroyde)
    We can only have so many academics. I am not a snob, I just value skills-based jobs as much as any other. Many do not.
    Many degrees are vocational-based. Have you ever looked at a prospectus for an ex-poly???? For example, Central Lancashire offers specific degree courses in nursing which provide a high level of expertise, and their graduates are highly employable. I do believe that HE has a place in offering vocational courses as long as they are structured sensibly.

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    (Original post by Tek)
    Actually, it would, becaue no-one would apply post A Level, because they'd fear the charges, so there'd be more applicants in my year than there would be normally, which equals more competition. And I wouldn't be able to apply post A Level if I wanted to avoid them (ie I'd have one shot at Cambridge).
    Don't worry, Tek, if you apply in 2006 you'll be in good company
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    But Tek you will only need one shot at Cambridge! I think if one can't succeed first time round then they are somehow cheating themselves by trying again - but that's just me!
    cheating himself? how? surely if someone wants to go to a particular uni they are just being true to themselves by giving it a second go?
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    (Original post by hildabeast)
    Many degrees are vocational-based. Have you ever looked at a prospectus for an ex-poly???? For example, Central Lancashire offers specific degree courses in nursing which provide a high level of expertise, and their graduates are highly employable. I do believe that HE has a place in offering vocational courses as long as they are structured sensibly.

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    But very few 'vocational' areas (I hate the term vocational) do not need a three year degree course at a university to learn. Indeed, many of them cannot be fully understood until practiced. That's where apprenticeships and vocational qualifications come in. Maybe there should be a vocational qualification that is considered as highly as a degree but is shorter and can only be gained after two years employment in the skill.
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    (Original post by edders)
    cheating himself? how? surely if someone wants to go to a particular uni they are just being true to themselves by giving it a second go?
    I know someone who has applied to Oxford twice unsuccessfully and is now applying to Cambridge. He just needs to drop it because it is holding up his life. People need to realise that there are plenty of other institutions which can offer an excellent education and prospects. If I hadn't been accepted I would not even have considered applying again - life goes on and there are other universities in this world.

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    (Original post by hildabeast)
    I know someone who has applied to Oxford twice unsuccessfully and is now applying to Cambridge. He just needs to drop it because it is holding up his life. People need to realise that there are plenty of other institutions which can offer an excellent education and prospects. If I hadn't been accepted I would not even have considered applying again - life goes on and there are other universities in this world.

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    Did your friend get an offer and fail it or not even recieve an offer?
 
 
 
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