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How often do they modify research income? Is it solely with every new RAE?

It'll be interesting to see how the current top ten differ from the new top ten after the adjustments. Anyone have any ideas about big winners/losers?
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It's in the top 20 I think.
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That's not one, not ten :p: Anyway, the top ten for this year has already been mentioned. All Russell Group unis, the largest research intensive unis. Leicester's a 1994 Group uni so probably 15 - 25 ish.
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The amount of government allocated per year is calculated based on the most recent RAE, but thats not where the majority of the cash comes from. The figures are announced and updated every year. The HEFCE from 08/09 show the top 10 in England are the top 12 in the UK, with Edinburgh and Glasgow in the overall top 10 directly behind Manchester.
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Sorry love, I don't 'do' drug addicts...

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who gives a crap? and anyway you can't deny oxbridge is the best
Research income surely doesn't equal research quality?
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"Income - £637m (Britain's first half-billion pound university)"

Manchester.
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who gives a crap? and anyway you can't deny oxbridge is the best
are you actually just stupid?! of course you can.
stop being so ******* narrow minded.
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The amount of government allocated per year is calculated based on the most recent RAE, but thats not where the majority of the cash comes from. The figures are announced and updated every year. The HEFCE from 08/09 show the top 10 in England are the top 12 in the UK, with Edinburgh and Glasgow in the overall top 10 directly behind Manchester.
Well the amount of HEFCE/SFC funding is done that way, but all the other research councils have funding-call and responsive-mode grants and allocate DTAs based on total research income. At least that's how I understood when I was applying for grants.
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fizzy pop silly

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(and I only meant in a TSR sense - I haven't laughed that hard at a TSR post in a long long time)
Now I'm a business man I don't have time to piss around being nice... smart arse kids need putting in their place.

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Manchester's income is £637million, first University to pass £500million, however, compared to Oxbridge, which only have a combined 35,000 students, Manchester has 61,000. Glasgow and Edinburgh have a combined 44,000, and make a total of about £850m. Total income is completely different from research income though, at Glasgow, research is worth about 145m out of a 400m total.

And yes, research income doesn't equal quality, but as has been mentioned, what do we trust more- the company placing the contracts, or a panel on the RAE who decide what constitues a 4* piece of work. For me, the latter is just a bit too subjective, whereas you can't really argue with the contract incomes.
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WRONG - LSE is about 30th for research income

Why is that?
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ok does anyone else care?
That is besides the point. All that matters is the OP's desire to know the answer, as he is the one that posed the question.
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Manchester's income is £637million, first University to pass £500million, however, compared to Oxbridge, which only have a combined 35,000 students, Manchester has 61,000. Glasgow and Edinburgh have a combined 44,000, and make a total of about £850m. Total income is completely different from research income though, at Glasgow, research is worth about 145m out of a 400m total.

And yes, research income doesn't equal quality, but as has been mentioned, what do we trust more- the company placing the contracts, or a panel on the RAE who decide what constitues a 4* piece of work. For me, the latter is just a bit too subjective, whereas you can't really argue with the contract incomes.
Total research expenditure at the University has grown by around 48% from £269m in 2004/5 to 398m* in 2006/7.


They have aroun 34 000 , NOT 61 000
//Manchester.
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historically, for scientific research, cambridge > all.

last few years, the divide (in terms of quality) is narrowing - imperial specifically is really catching up, and my dad thinks the research coming out of imperial in the last decade or so is so much better than the research coming out of anywhere else (again, for science).
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Might've been 61,000 applications for places then, I stand corrected. However, what made me sure was I'm sure there was something recently about them surpassing the 40,000 mark in something. Since Glasgow has 19,000 with 5,000 part time students not normally listed, I thought something similar was the case for Manchester, where the part time students or adult learners swelled the numbers. I think 34,000 is an abnormally low figure, that must be from around the time of the merger- I'd be surprised if it wasn't the best part of 10,000 more than that now. I'm off now, but I'll do some digging later and find a figure.
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Might've been 61,000 applications for places then, I stand corrected. However, what made me sure was I'm sure there was something recently about them surpassing the 40,000 mark in something. Since Glasgow has 19,000 with 5,000 part time students not normally listed, I thought something similar was the case for Manchester, where the part time students or adult learners swelled the numbers. I think 34,000 is an abnormally low figure, that must be from around the time of the merger- I'd be surprised if it wasn't the best part of 10,000 more than that now. I'm off now, but I'll do some digging later and find a figure.
http://www.unistats.com/uniDetailsSt...30228075040953
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Read all about it! 6th former in talk out of arse shocker...
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