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    Mail
    13
    12.38%
    Express
    1
    0.95%
    Observer/ Guardian
    34
    32.38%
    Independent
    15
    14.29%
    Times
    26
    24.76%
    Telegraph
    9
    8.57%
    FT
    7
    6.67%

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    The Daily Telegraph, Monday-Saturday.
    Then The Sunday Times.
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    (Original post by Oladz)
    or one of the several million illegal immigrants in this country
    Same difference, just deport the *******s!
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    The Independent by a gazillion miles.
    Then The Times and Guardian.
    Then others
    Then any free newspaper,
    then the Sun, The Star, The Daily Fail, The People and the News of the World (The *********, scummiest newspapers around)
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    I think the Independent, is great for politics and the like.
    Some of the Guardian supplements are very often very good though.

    We have both where at home, so it's picky choosy.
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    (Original post by ArcadiaHouse)
    This.

    But option 3 in the poll makes no sense.

    Observer is 'Guardian on Sunday'. That's why it's like that.
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    (Original post by hazzypants)
    Observer is 'Guardian on Sunday'. That's why it's like that.
    Learn something new every day!
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    (Original post by ArcadiaHouse)
    Learn something new every day!
    lol I only know that cos i work in a newsagent :p:
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    The daily Sport is the best, even though its full of lies haha still really funny.
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    Anyone else read up online?

    I prefer The Telegraph .. reading up on Economics-y articles.
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    The FT is, in my opinion by far the best, as it seems to allow you to make up your own mind on its articles, displaying the facts very clearly, without the journalist twisting the material to reflect their own views particularly, or if they do, it generally seems much better reasoned than in most other publications.

    However, in terms of value for money, it's far too expensive to read regularly for me though.

    I quite like the Times, but it seems to be getting more trashy by the day, no that I don't enjoy some lighter reading, but the balance needs to be right. The Guardian/Observer I can't stand, so very pretentious from cover to cover. I have always though the Indie was very good, but don't get it as often as I should.

    The rest frankly aren't worth mentioning.
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    (Original post by artemisa)
    Yes, simply following what is deemed fashionable and in an attempt to appease their own ignorant views of society.

    Usually changes when they grow up and enter full-time employment.

    Yes, because clearly my anti-capitalist, anti-consumerist attitudes are very fashionable in this consumer centric media-driven society. The lure of Topshop and Starbucks is as nothing compared to radical environmental action and stiff intellectual debate. Which would be why students never frequent such places - the ethical and economic price is too high against the cheapness and chic. In the words of the late Bill Hicks, "my broad feminist dialectic brings all the girls to the yard".

    Liberality (as opposed to conservatism) in the social sense is generally the realm of the young, and it is no wonder that seemingly anti-progress newspapers are eschewed by the student demographic. Don't, however, use this to judge why people think what they do.

    Here's where a comment about the inherent bitter cynicism of the right would normally appear - but I'm not in the business of making generalisations about people.
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    I tend to get most of my news on the internet now but the papers I do read are the times on a sunday and sometimes the times/independent on various other days. My parents read the Daily Mail.
    I find the best news websites are the BBC for a decent overview of the news and timesonline for some good articles on business, politics , enviornment etc and also some good comment articles and education stuff.

    Frankly I find the guardian a bit boring with just as much twisting of the facts as any paper despite what many self important 'intellectuals' believe (although it is good sometimes when they get political leaders to write in it). The only other papers I ever buy are local ones.
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    (Original post by Oladz)
    or one of the several million illegal immigrants in this country :yep:
    Fixed.
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    ^ true.

    Should people be 'illegal'?
    (yes that's lexical misuse, and what?)

    Is freedom only for some people?
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    (Original post by redhanded)
    Yes, because clearly my anti-capitalist, anti-consumerist attitudes are very fashionable in this consumer centric media-driven society.
    Yes, actually you're right there, have you not seen the "death to the bankers" - esqe leanings from almost every paper in creation over the last few weeks. I can't remember a single article that I've seen criticising the decision to the house of representative to pass 90% bonus clawback legislation on AIG employees.

    (Original post by redhanded)
    The lure of Topshop and Starbucks is as nothing compared to radical environmental action and stiff intellectual debate.
    In my opinion, radical environmental action is unnecessary. Cue stiff intellectual debate.

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    Which would be why students never frequent such places - the ethical and economic price is too high against the cheapness and chic. In the words of the late Bill Hicks, "my broad feminist dialectic brings all the girls to the yard".
    No, just the economic cost I believe. £2 Lattes are luxuries that students just can't afford.

    (Original post by redhanded)
    Liberality (as opposed to conservatism) in the social sense is generally the realm of the young, and it is no wonder that seemingly anti-progress newspapers are eschewed by the student demographic. Don't, however, use this to judge why people think what they do.
    substitute and anti-progress for respectable and that's about right.

    (Original post by redhanded)
    Here's where a comment about the inherent bitter cynicism of the right would normally appear - but I'm not in the business of making generalisations about people.
    You should start making generalisations about people. They are by definition usually right and save a lot of time.
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    can't understand why people enjoy reading a paper as far up its own arse as the independent. I personally can't stand its 'oh aren't we clever, we're covering something which isn't actually news as our front page' attitude.

    As far as the other papers go, guardian is good but its business section is appalling and crapped all over on by the times and the telegraph. The telegraph is too right wing. Which leaves the Times which is a relief as it has the best sports sections, the best sudokus and giles coren. All of which make it > *
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    The League Express and whatever I can find on the train besides the scabby metro, so long as the sports section is good which means any paper except the Daily Mail and Martin Samuel the biased, bitter, twisted **** (your expletive here).

    And the Sun, Star or Sport for the boobies
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    (Original post by mousehunt02)
    Yes, actually you're right there, have you not seen the "death to the bankers" - esqe leanings from almost every paper in creation over the last few weeks. I can't remember a single article that I've seen criticising the decision to the house of representative to pass 90% bonus clawback legislation on AIG employees.
    I assume you can spot the difference between anti-capitalist/consumerist, and 'there is a huge economic problem which needs fixing'? A lack of faith in institutions (bonus culture, banking structures, etc.) which have been involved in massive market crashes does not a socialist make.


    (Original post by mousehunt02)
    No, just the economic cost I believe. £2 Lattes are luxuries that students just can't afford.
    Is it your sarcasm filter that's broken, or mine? My local high-street coffee chain-shops are packed with students, but I won't go because of the ethical concerns.

    (Original post by mousehunt02)
    substitute and anti-progress for respectable and that's about right.
    Highly subjective - note that I used 'seemly anti-progress' to indicate that such papers might, to the liberal student, appear anti-progress.

    (Original post by mousehunt02)
    You should start making generalisations about people. They are by definition usually right and save a lot of time.
    I'll assume you're being sarcastic so that I don't choke on the irony.
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    why does everyone hate the daily mail?
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    (Original post by Rosaaa)
    The Daily Telegraph, Monday-Saturday.
    Then The Sunday Times.
    The Daily Telegraph, Monday-Saturday.
    Then The Sunday Times.
 
 
 
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