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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    The thing is we don't need to keep a clean sheet, their first goal doesn't really matter that much at all, if we win 3-0 we go straight through if we win 3-1 it'll go to extra time, where we'd only need to score one for them to need to then score 2 because of away goals.

    Either way I can't really see it happening, although having said that we should have scored at least 3 in the first leg, so if we get an early goal who knows what can happen.

    Still, we should be focusing on Saturday, west ham may have dropped form and we may be at home but it won't be an easy game.

    Oh and I read yesterday that since November we have won 18 of our last 23 games, that 78% win percentage is pretty staggering, especially considering we've played most top pl teams in that time bar Chelsea I think
    fair enough - did not think about extra time and a draw..

    + your right about west ham, they have dropped form but are always dangerous. in feburary they held spurs, united and southampton all to draws.. so we do really need to not underestimate them.
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
    Only just noticed this

    How are people feeling about Monaco now especially considering Schalke almost did the 'impossible' tonight. Meh I don't know.
    I knew you'd take it well so I wasn't worried about getting a card

    As for Monaco, it's definitely not impossible although don't forget that you MUST score 3 goals in 90 minutes.

    And let's not underestimate the French team, I think we all did that before the first leg and Arsenal paid the price.
    However with the way you're playing lately, it's certainly not impossible.

    I would prefer you to go through anyway; a few more CL games as distractions would hopefully drop you a few points in the league.
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    I knew you'd take it well so I wasn't worried about getting a card

    As for Monaco, it's definitely not impossible although don't forget that you MUST score 3 goals in 90 minutes.

    And let's not underestimate the French team, I think we all did that before the first leg and Arsenal paid the price.
    However with the way you're playing lately, it's certainly not impossible.

    I would prefer you to go through anyway; a few more CL games as distractions would hopefully drop you a few points in the league.
    Thing is I'm not entirely worried about the need to score 3 goals in 90 minutes, that's all fine and dandy. It's just a matter of conceding. If we score then concede it becomes useless, taking one step forward and two steps back.

    For some funny reason I couldn't give a toss about CL anymore. Retaining the FA cup and finishing in top four (preferably 3rd) should be the priority. Okay so say we do beat Monaco and progress, then what? I highly doubt we'd be 'lucky' to be drawn with Porto which would leave the other big guns left, waste of time and energy imo when we should be focusing on more realisitic achievements.

    We need to put an end to this "Oh Stevie G, we're gonna miss you, here take this FA cup as a sign of our love for you" business :fuhrer:
    Only joking
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
    Thing is I'm not entirely worried about the need to score 3 goals in 90 minutes, that's all fine and dandy. It's just a matter of conceding. If we score then concede it becomes useless, taking one step forward and two steps back.

    For some funny reason I couldn't give a toss about CL anymore. Retaining the FA cup and finishing in top four (preferably 3rd) should be the priority. Okay so say we do beat Monaco and progress, then what? I highly doubt we'd be 'lucky' to be drawn with Porto which would leave the other big guns left, waste of time and energy imo when we should be focusing on more realisitic achievements.

    We need to put an end to this "Oh Stevie G, we're gonna miss you, here take this FA cup as a sign of our love for you" business :fuhrer:
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    well that's just the issue.
    in the event that you score 3 goals:

    if you concede 0, you go through.
    if you concede 1, you go to ET.
    if you concede more than 1, you must match that by scoring an extra goal for each that you concede (in each case you would go through on away goals).

    with respect, maybe you don't care too much because you don't think you can win it?
    i feel like FA Cup and 3rd would be a good season for you considering how difficult it is to match city and chelsea.
    plus it's better to give a little breathing room to 4th place, because there will be so much fighting for that last CL spot in seasons to come.

    nah, if we win it we deserve to win it.
    if we don't, we weren't good enough.
    we need to beat blackburn, villa and (presumably) arsenal to win the cup.....simple enough.
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
    Thing is I'm not entirely worried about the need to score 3 goals in 90 minutes, that's all fine and dandy. It's just a matter of conceding. If we score then concede it becomes useless, taking one step forward and two steps back.

    For some funny reason I couldn't give a toss about CL anymore. Retaining the FA cup and finishing in top four (preferably 3rd) should be the priority. Okay so say we do beat Monaco and progress, then what? I highly doubt we'd be 'lucky' to be drawn with Porto which would leave the other big guns left, waste of time and energy imo when we should be focusing on more realisitic achievements.

    We need to put an end to this "Oh Stevie G, we're gonna miss you, here take this FA cup as a sign of our love for you" business :fuhrer:
    Only joking
    Liverpool want to win the FA cup to give Stevie G a sending off

    Do you think they can beat Blackburn at Blackburn ground?
    I want Liverpool to lose so that we can avoid potentially having to play them in the Final

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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    well that's just the issue.
    in the event that you score 3 goals:

    if you concede 0, you go through.
    if you concede 1, you go to ET.
    if you concede more than 1, you must match that by scoring an extra goal for each that you concede (in each case you would go through on away goals).

    with respect, maybe you don't care too much because you don't think you can win it?
    i feel like FA Cup and 3rd would be a good season for you considering how difficult it is to match city and chelsea.
    plus it's better to give a little breathing room to 4th place, because there will be so much fighting for that last CL spot in seasons to come.

    nah, if we win it we deserve to win it.
    if we don't, we weren't good enough.
    we need to beat blackburn, villa and (presumably) arsenal to win the cup.....simple enough.
    Would lol if we're the team to knock you out second year running inb4 you win the whole thing

    Well yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to say. We won't win CL this season so why waste time? Not being pessimistic or fickle or whatever name under the sun, just trying to be realistic.

    Exactly that, I really can't be asked with CL qualifiers. We've done that the past two seasons, let's take a chilled route for once. A lot of people calling for Wenger to leave if we get FA cup + 3rd/4th so it ends on a high but this man really wants to win CL, hope he does somehow before he walks.
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    (Original post by ProNoob)
    Liverpool want to win the FA cup to give Stevie G a sending off

    Do you think they can beat Blackburn at Blackburn ground?
    I want Liverpool to lose so that we can avoid potentially having to play them in the Final

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    Uh huh, seems like a priority for them.

    Logically it would make sense to want Liverpool to lose but they won't in my opinion. They weren't so good at Anfield (hence why it's gone to a replay) but I'm very sure they'll completely dominate Blackburn at Ewood park but it will be tough at the same time too. Going for a standard 2-0 win. A goal in each half maybe.
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
    Uh huh, seems like a priority for them.

    Logically it would make sense to want Liverpool to lose but they won't in my opinion. They weren't so good at Anfield (hence why it's gone to a replay) but I'm very sure they'll completely dominate Blackburn at Ewood park but it will be tough at the same time too. Going for a standard 2-0 win. A goal in each half maybe.
    Blackburn will have to attack a bit more at home and that's where we'll do better. We've won away at Bolton and Palace in the cup already and have 5 away clean sheets in a row iirc, so hopefully should be okay.
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    Blackburn will have to attack a bit more at home and that's where we'll do better. We've won away at Bolton and Palace in the cup already and have 5 away clean sheets in a row iirc, so hopefully should be okay.
    Apparently their pitch is really ****, manager said it made Anfield look like Wembley (despite Rodgers complaining about the state of it), so could imagine them bus parking and trying to hold onto pen's, with the pitch disrupting your play.
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    Apparently their pitch is really ****, manager said it made Anfield look like Wembley (despite Rodgers complaining about the state of it), so could imagine them bus parking and trying to hold onto pen's, with the pitch disrupting your play.
    I don't like the implications of 'Rodgers complaining about it' - it is actually truly ****e, regular Anfield attenders have mentioned that it's not much better than pub league pitches near the corner flags and in general it's piss-poor.

    Teams at home don't tend to bus park though, especially not in the cup. If they do then I'd back us again, like I did against their bus the first time, but we'll see. Hopefully Sturridge is in better form by then and Kolo doesn't miss two sitters.
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    Our FA Cup draw only looks easy cause big teams ****ed up! If favourites had won each time our route to the cup would have been:

    City--> Utd--->Chelsea--->Liverpool

    ...can't get much harder than that
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
    Would lol if we're the team to knock you out second year running inb4 you win the whole thing

    Well yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to say. We won't win CL this season so why waste time? Not being pessimistic or fickle or whatever name under the sun, just trying to be realistic.

    Exactly that, I really can't be asked with CL qualifiers. We've done that the past two seasons, let's take a chilled route for once. A lot of people calling for Wenger to leave if we get FA cup + 3rd/4th so it ends on a high but this man really wants to win CL, hope he does somehow before he walks.
    please don't make me re-live that shambles of a match when you beat
    like many of us have said, top 4 is the priority and FA Cup is a bonus.
    would suck to go out but as long as we make CL next year, i wouldn't be massively upset over it.

    nah, it is realistic; arsenal just don't have the quality or consistency to match some of the big boys in europe.
    that's not to say they won't do in future, but right now you wouldn't expect them to win the CL.

    exactly, CL qualifiers just add a massive load of pressure on teams and put them up against other clubs that will always play 100%.
    not to mention how potential transfer targets might be put on hold since they could want to wait until after teams get through their CL qualifier.

    i really don't think wenger will leave any time soon, not unless you have an awful season and finish outside top 4.
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    Whats happening with Falcao is really strange along with Mata. I was surprised none of them came on in the game against us especially mata as he usually has a field day against us. Mata went from one of the best midfielders in the league to a bench warmer and looking at the utd team its not like their midfield is world class.

    Falcao doesn't seem to be able to play uptop by himself if i'm honest he just doesn't have the legs it looks like to me. It seems to me that he should just stay on the edge of the opp defense as he really doesn't have the pace to come infield, pick up the ball, turn and run at the defence.

    Man utd made the same mistake Wenger did after the invincible era in that they got rid of alot of the old guard all to quickly and filled the squad will new players who didn't have that winning mentality and old philosophy of never give up. You would look at their squad and team and say even in the 90th min that a goal was coming from them or they'd pull themselves out of something but really only Rooney has that look about him now. It doesn't seem like a problem that will fix by simply buying good players as you can look to arsenal and we haven't fully gotten over it yet. We just recently started coming out of that mentality and are starting to develop a winning attitude. It's obvious with us though that we are missing that leader in the team in the heart of midfield though. With Utd I think out of all positions they need that type of player too and especially one in midfield.
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    Arteta's probably the most underrated player in the premier league
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    cant help it. as much as I know its best for arsenal if chelsea win tonight - I just want to see them knocked out more then anything..

    chelsea loose to PSG, and arsenal beat monaco 3-0 :coma:

    To good to be true
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...n-Subotic.html

    Interesting, wouldn't surprise me if Per went in the summer.
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    (Original post by angelfox)
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...n-Subotic.html

    Interesting, wouldn't surprise me if Per went in the summer.
    happy for him to go, or to stay as an experianced member of the team who does not play much..

    But no way should he be in our first XI next year.. he should be thanked for his great service, but let out of the starting lineups with the understanding that his strong performances are getting fewer and fewer, and his mind has never properly came back since the world cup.
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    (Original post by fallen_acorns)
    cant help it. as much as I know its best for arsenal if chelsea win tonight - I just want to see them knocked out more then anything..

    chelsea loose to PSG, and arsenal beat monaco 3-0 :coma:

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    Why is it best for Arsenal?
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    (Original post by al_94)
    Why is it best for Arsenal?
    UEFA coefficients. If we do bad this season and next season it's the same story for English clubs you know what will happen.
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    UEFA coefficients. If we do bad this season and next season it's the same story for English clubs you know what will happen.
    I guessing he meant short term you'd have other commitments which may make you drop points/ allow others in the top 4 battle to gain points against you.

    That being said hasn't the rule been changed for next year anyway to stop us from being in pot
 
 
 
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