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    (Original post by holatombola)
    I got the same UKCAT and GCSEs and they rejected me a while back pre-interview, despite all my work experience, volunteering and A-level grades! The only feedback given was that my UKCAT was too low which is utter rubbish as many people with lower UKCAT scores than me have got interviews...

    Their process seems dodgy and corrupt so best of luck! XD
    you sure? as after all, I think UKCAT is a **** indicator of ability.
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    (Original post by ocelot92)
    you sure? as after all, I think UKCAT is a **** indicator of ability.
    I completely disagree mate! It is a really good way to separate good from bad applicants! For this year I think that 725 is quite a low score!


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    (Original post by Alexsk)
    I completely disagree mate! It is a really good way to separate good from bad applicants! For this year I think that 725 is quite a low score!


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    I got what is considered a 'good' score, and I also think it's a load of ball locks. Seriously, abstract reasoning? It's scarcely applicable to anything vocational. Alongside that, people getting extra time for medicine entry tests.. seriously.. will they get extra time when someone's bleeding out on the operating table?


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    (Original post by sausagerolled)
    I got what is considered a 'good' score, and I also think it's a load of ball locks. Seriously, abstract reasoning? It's scarcely applicable to anything vocational. Alongside that, people getting extra time for medicine entry tests.. seriously.. will they get extra time when someone's bleeding out on the operating table?


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    So from your last sentence, you admit dealing with the time pressure in the UKCAT can be translated into real life situations.
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    Oh Lordy ... Hear we go....lol lol lol...., I was so pleased till now to see the 'Ukcat ' discussion being avoided ...well majorly anyway.. Can I humbly request to not get too much into this ... Especially as this is the epic doom + gloom or exhilarating and exciting month with decisions and all being passed on... So everyone ( ok maybe jus me ) mite be on the edge .....

    Let's jus remember nothing we say about Ukcat makes a sod of a difference ... It's should really be viewed as like a hurdle we all have to jump... Like the random entrance test u do for so many jobs which are not always reflective of candidates ability ...
    It is like u have to earn ur way for a med school to look at ur application ....
    Ukcat is the currency lol
    Please don't be offended by what I said ... ( I myself didn't clear the hurdle for GEP .... Especially at Bart's ... So I get the frustration ) ... But u will do far better if u think like that ... Well I found that to be the case... As the poem goes... ' for theirs isn't to reason why.... Theirs is but to do and die .... Into the valley rode the 600 ' ok maybe I am mixing up the words but it's the charge of the light brigade ... Lol

    Sorry if I offend anyone ..


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    Tbh if the UKCAT average keeps rising to they will have to change it's format or it will just be discarded. already unis like Leeds and BSMS are moving to the BMAT next year, personally I think it's a far better exam, yes it was written by Satan's mother when she had severe PMT but it's a lot fairer than the UKCAT and would certainly reduce the number of applicants simply through fear....


    Just a thought


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    what is this years cutoff then for a100 uk? 725 too low?? but will that be compensated with 10A* 1A GCSEs and AAAAA at as etc..???
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    (Original post by ocelot92)
    what is this years cutoff then for a100 uk? 725 too low?? but will that be compensated with 10A* 1A GCSEs and AAAAA at as etc..???
    Unless your personal statement was not worthy for toilet roll it should be anywhere from 700 up, if you don't hear query the uni and ask why!? On paper you look like what they look for, you are checking the portal?


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    (Original post by callummj6747)
    Tbh if the UKCAT average keeps rising to they will have to change it's format or it will just be discarded. already unis like Leeds and BSMS are moving to the BMAT next year, personally I think it's a far better exam, yes it was written by Satan's mother when she had severe PMT but it's a lot fairer than the UKCAT and would certainly reduce the number of applicants simply through fear....


    Just a thought


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    Ok I mite be a hipocrite especially after what I said above... It as u say the bmat being very hard ...
    Also there are cases where certain people are given advantage because they are taught in how to master it ... ( same applies to Ukcat really ) the idea which unis have of assessing potential is a Nobel one but it hard to do that .... But I would rather have that especially after a level ( as a grad I can see that's less relevant to an extend ... Hence gamsat is becoming more popular which is 7 hours if I am not mistaken!!)
    But there are so many things which affect ur current ability such as socio economic status, culture etc..... But the premise is these in an ideal world don't affect potential as much ( flawed reasoning probably but can sort of see what that means)
    As medicine is about choosing people with most potential...... How in the world do u assess that .... Back in the day it used to reference and a good ps but then that usually introduces the element of some sort of corruption or many be the privileged getting all the right refereneçs etc... ( NOT SAYING THAT WAS THE CASE just pointing out hypothetically that was a possibility and a real one )
    So Ukcat in those things does well, cheap exam,
    Not a lot of scientific content so u can't 'coach '
    But it has it's negatives ....
    I am not paid by unis to device their entrance exams ... SO it's not my problem it's theirs ... ( maybe they can pay me and then I can think as this problem requires a full time commitment )
    So yea it's a difficult topic ....... Hard to assess its validity in a way ...
    Anyway like I said who cares about what I say on this matter ...


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    (Original post by hello101)
    Ok I mite be a hipocrite especially after what I said above... It as u say the bmat being very hard ...
    Also there are cases where certain people are given advantage because they are taught in how to master it ... ( same applies to Ukcat really ) the idea which unis have of assessing potential is a Nobel one but it hard to do that .... But I would rather have that especially after a level ( as a grad I can see that's less relevant to an extend ... Hence gamsat is becoming more popular which is 7 hours if I am not mistaken!!)
    But there are so many things which affect ur current ability such as socio economic status, culture etc..... But the premise is these in an ideal world don't affect potential as much ( flawed reasoning probably but can sort of see what that means)
    As medicine is about choosing people with most potential...... How in the world do u assess that .... Back in the day it used to reference and a good ps but then that usually introduces the element of some sort of corruption or many be the privileged getting all the right refereneçs etc... ( NOT SAYING THAT WAS THE CASE just pointing out hypothetically that was a possibility and a real one )
    So Ukcat in those things does well, cheap exam,
    Not a lot of scientific content so u can't 'coach '
    But it has it's negatives ....
    I am not paid by unis to device their entrance exams ... SO it's not my problem it's theirs ... ( maybe they can pay me and then I can think as this problem requires a full time commitment )
    So yea it's a difficult topic ....... Hard to assess its validity in a way ...
    Anyway like I said who cares about what I say on this matter ...


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    It's a very specific subject that we have no say over on this forum, however when I am president of the world I will end the entrance exams and base all medical school applications on a combination of luxurious Gifts and nepotism....


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    (Original post by pkozman)
    So from your last sentence, you admit dealing with the time pressure in the UKCAT can be translated into real life situations.
    Key word being 'scarcely'.. timing is what makes the exam difficult! It tests exam technique and familiarity with the format more than anything.


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    (Original post by callummj6747)
    It's a very specific subject that we have no say over on this forum, however when I am president of the world I will end the entrance exams and base all medical school applications on a combination of luxurious Gifts and nepotism....


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    Lol great start to a future campaign .....
    Ps if I REMEBER correctly u have an offer from kings ... If so woop woop .. Many congratulations buddy


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    (Original post by hello101)
    Lol great start to a future campaign .....
    Ps if I REMEBER correctly u have an offer from kings ... If so woop woop .. Many congratulations buddy


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    Well remembered, it's firmed and I've applied for accommodation....just want September 13th to come!


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    (Original post by callummj6747)
    Well remembered, it's firmed and I've applied for accommodation....just want September 13th to come!


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    Lo u want 13 th September to come and I want the offer to come.... Here's to praying we both get what we want ....


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    (Original post by sausagerolled)
    I got what is considered a 'good' score, and I also think it's a load of ball locks. Seriously, abstract reasoning? It's scarcely applicable to anything vocational. Alongside that, people getting extra time for medicine entry tests.. seriously.. will they get extra time when someone's bleeding out on the operating table?


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    I understand what you're saying, in that it's difficult to see the real life benefits, but the point of the UKCAT isn't to test knowledge, it's apparently to test innate skill. Hence abstract reasoning is supposedly there to test ability to see pattern, to make connections, ect. Maybe the BMAT is a better indicator of ability.
    The reason that some people get extra time is if they have, for example, dyslexia. You can imagine how unfair it would be to give a dyslexic person the same amount of time to read a passage than a person without dyslexia.
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    Ok back on track of the original post:

    I cba to check 200+ pages of posts, so, has any home student applicants got any offers yet?

    I had my interview 29th January and I still haven't heard back from them..

    Funny thing is, at the interview they said they'll make a decision within 2-3 weeks and after 3 weeks they sent me an email saying they are now carefully considering my application.. like what?
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    (Original post by kmlee0926)
    Ok back on track of the original post:

    I cba to check 200+ pages of posts, so, has any home student applicants got any offers yet?

    I had my interview 29th January and I still haven't heard back from them..

    Funny thing is, at the interview they said they'll make a decision within 2-3 weeks and after 3 weeks they sent me an email saying they are now carefully considering my application.. like what?
    Let me give you a summary of the last 200 pages of this (slightly) depressing thread:

    The whole "we will try to make a decision within 2-3 weeks post interview" is basically the same as: "we will try to make a decision whenever we want to and that whenever can very well be the end of March."

    Hang in there.
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    (Original post by Cephalosporin)
    Hang in there.
    At work I've been checking my email every hour or so for the past 3 weeks.
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    (Original post by Cephalosporin)
    Let me give you a summary of the last 200 pages of this (slightly) depressing thread:

    The whole "we will try to make a decision within 2-3 weeks post interview" is basically the same as: "we will try to make a decision whenever we want to and that whenever can very well be the end of March."

    Hang in there.
    Hey! How did your interview go? I think you had yours a week before mine? The wait is making me nervous as hell hahah.
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    (Original post by sausagerolled)
    I got what is considered a 'good' score, and I also think it's a load of ball locks. Seriously, abstract reasoning? It's scarcely applicable to anything vocational. Alongside that, people getting extra time for medicine entry tests.. seriously.. will they get extra time when someone's bleeding out on the operating table?


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    Abstract reasoning tests your ability to spot patterns, for example, when looking at xrays and other scans. You need to be able to tell if there's an abnormality.

    (Original post by kmlee0926)
    At work I've been checking my email every hour or so for the past 3 weeks.
    Try 3 months, that's how long a lot of us have been waiting.

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