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    Lol the jidf are making settlements in this thread

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    (Original post by RoyalBlue7)
    Once a liar always a liar, you!

    Arafat was cowardly assassinated by Mossad. Imagine Hamas doing the same to Netanyahu...

    Just google Arafat and AIDS.


    And it's know he used to like little boys.
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    Another ceasefire broken by Hamas.

    Reports are they waited for the ceasefire to take effect, then attacked Israeli troops through a tunnel with a suicide bomber.

    Anyone who supports that side it morally bankrupt.
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    More details about the ceasefire breakdown.

    An Israeli squad started moving into Gaza (2.5KM), near Rafah which was apparently contrary to the truce. At this point, they were fired upon.

    More details here.
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    (Original post by Apocrypha)
    Apparently Arafat's symptoms were typical AIDS symptoms.


    And not that of excessive exposure to polonium radiation?
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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    HAMAS political leadership have no details on the capture of an Israeli officer, Hadar Goldin.

    Gilad Shalit was only a corporal. Hadar Goldin is a 2Lt.

    Would it make a difference to the Israeli's? Would it make a difference to HAMAS's demands?
    Yes, because unlike Hamas, Israel cares about the lives of its soldiers and civilians. They will make concessions to get the soldier back.

    Israel's humanity is its downfall in this war. Whereas Hamas would not care if their soldiers were kidnapped or killed or tortured, Israel will do what it can in its power to have the soldier released.
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    (Original post by RoyalBlue7)
    And not that of excessive exposure to polonium radiation?
    I dont believe there was ever a post mortem to acknowledge his cause of death, there are only claims, there is evidence to suggest multiple means of death, AIDS being one of them, radioactive poisoning another etc.

    We will never know for sure.
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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    HAMAS political leadership have no details on the capture of an Israeli officer, Hadar Goldin.

    Gilad Shalit was only a corporal. Hadar Goldin is a 2Lt.

    Would it make a difference to the Israeli's? Would it make a difference to HAMAS's demands?
    Nope, this will prove Israel to be the better side, showing they respect the lives of their soldiers and civilians and dont just call them martyrs and let them die.

    Difference between being normal and being fanatically crazy.
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    (Original post by miavdbt)
    Yes, because unlike Hamas, Israel cares about the lives of its soldiers and civilians. They will make concessions to get the soldier back.

    Israel's humanity is its downfall in this war. Whereas Hamas would not care if their soldiers were kidnapped or killed or tortured, Israel will do what it can in its power to have the soldier released.
    Let's hope it results in the end of this conflict...
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    (Original post by Sic semper erat)
    Which city are you from then?

    His Christian Lebanese friends were even scarier =P
    I'm not from Palestine. Dunno why you keep thinking I am
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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    Let's hope it results in the end of this conflict...
    Yes, but even if this conflict ends, how soon until a new one?

    It feels like an endless cycle. Until Hamas is in power, there'll always be conflicts. You can blame it on Israel for wanting Hamas out, or on Hamas for provoking Israel, but either way, as long as Hamas is in power, we will see similar conflicts on a very frequent basis.
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    (Original post by Apocrypha)
    I dont believe there was ever a post mortem to acknowledge his cause of death, there are only claims, there is evidence to suggest multiple means of death, AIDS being one of them, radioactive poisoning another etc.

    We will never know for sure.
    Exhumation of Arafat's remains

    On 9 July 2012, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas approved the exhumation of Arafat's body in response to the Al Jazeera story about polonium. [61] On 8 August 2012, Swiss experts were invited to the West Bank to prepare the examination of Yasser Arafat's remains for possible poisoning. [62] The lab said that they wanted guarantees that the investigation would not be used for political purposes, saying, "Meanwhile, our main concern is to guarantee the independence, the credibility and the transparency of any involvement that we may have." [63] On 27 November 2012, three teams of international investigators collected samples from Arafat's body and the surrounding soil in the mausoleum in Ramallah. A French, a Swiss and a Russian team have independently investigated the samples. [64][65][66]

    Publication of the results of the studies was delayed, reportedly on request of the Palestinian Authority, who feared they could have negative impact on the peace talks. [67]

    On 6 November 2013, al-Jazeera reported that the Swiss forensic team had found levels of polonium in Arafat's ribs and pelvis 18 times higher than normal, and were 83 percent confident that polonium poisoning occurred, but Professor Bochud disagreed with this interpretation by Al Jazeera and only states that the poisoning hypothesis by polonium is "moderately supported". [68] According to a journalist, Luis Lema, on a probability scale ranging from one to six, death by polonium poisoning is around five. [69] His widow Suha stated her belief that he was a victim of a "political assassination" but refrained from finger-pointing and said she would await the French forensic[51][70][71]...

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause...at's_death

    Of course there will be disagreement and this and that as it is a highly sensitive political issue. Cant be sure, yes

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    Robert Serry, the United Nations Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process, condemned Palestinians for breaking the ceasefire.

    Despicable entity.
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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    It is inevitable that the Israeli state shall cease to exist within the 30-40 years...
    In what way is it 'inevitable'?
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    (Original post by Pinzgauer)
    Robert Serry, the United Nations Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process, condemned Palestinians for breaking the ceasefire.

    Despicable entity.
    Source?
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    Source?
    UN condemns Palestinians for breaking ceasefire
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    (Original post by Apocrypha)
    Nope, this will prove Israel to be the better side, showing they respect the lives of their soldiers and civilians and dont just call them martyrs and let them die.

    Difference between being normal and being fanatically crazy.
    HAMAS don't let Palestinians perish in Israeli jails on what are probably, trumped up charges.

    HAMAS are realistic, the IDF are idealistic as perception is everything to them because it is used to keep faith and confidence in "the system".
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    US condemns barbaric violation of ceasefire agreement
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    (Original post by castlemadeofsand)
    In what way is it 'inevitable'?
    As Israel becomes more firmly established, it will no longer be excused from adhering to international obligations (as seen recently).

    Thus, it's actions, if it carries on, which it no doubt will, come under severe scrutiny which means that it starts losing friends and allies.

    A concentrated effect by the Palestinians against the Israeli's, both militarily and diplomatically will ensure that the Israeli state ceases to exists within 30-40 years if it carries on, like now and in the past, with relative impunity.
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    (Original post by miavdbt)
    Yes, but even if this conflict ends, how soon until a new one?

    It feels like an endless cycle. Until Hamas is in power, there'll always be conflicts. You can blame it on Israel for wanting Hamas out, or on Hamas for provoking Israel, but either way, as long as Hamas is in power, we will see similar conflicts on a very frequent basis.
    HAMAS is only in power because the Palestinians have deemed it necessary for them to be in power.

    If Abbas, after having recognised and allowed the expansion of Israeli settlements, could have in fact allowed himself to be firm in negotiations without dancing to the Israeli tune, then the people of Gaza would have voted overwhelmingly for Fatah.

    But they didn't because they believe the problem is Israel and HAMAS is the solution...
 
 
 
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