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    (Original post by snowman77)
    on what basis do you think he will win the us open? he hasn't reached the final since 2009. he hasn't beaten djokovic there since 2009. in the last 3 years, he's lost to players he would have never lost to in his prime. he could reach the quarters or semis, maybe even the final, but winning the whole thing? almost no chance.
    I agree with this, he had decent chances to win in 2009, 2011 and 2014 (imo he blew the 2009 final - could have been 6 in a row)

    Djokovic, as it stands now, is the heavy favourite. We will see how things stand after Montreal and Cincinnati.
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    Only way Federer is winning the US Open is if he Murray takes out Djokovic in the SF because he ain't beating Djokovic in a slam ever again. He could still Murray in slams. Djokovic is the favourite for US Open but he isn't a massive favourite imo. He is quite vulnerable at US Open and has a 1-4 finals record there. US Open is one of the most open slams in last few years. Even Berdych can win it lol.
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    (Original post by Krish4791)
    I agree with this, he had decent chances to win in 2009, 2011 and 2014 (imo he blew the 2009 final - could have been 6 in a row)

    Djokovic, as it stands now, is the heavy favourite. We will see how things stand after Montreal and Cincinnati.
    He should have won it in 2009 and 2014. 2011 was also a decent chance. It was probably the last time where he could physically compete and maybe beat Nadal in slams.
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    (Original post by snowman77)
    on what basis do you think he will win the us open? he hasn't reached the final since 2009. he hasn't beaten djokovic there since 2009. in the last 3 years, he's lost to players he would have never lost to in his prime. he could reach the quarters or semis, maybe even the final, but winning the whole thing? almost no chance.
    He had a chance last year as well...it was just his luck that he came across GOATing cilic in the semi finals...he enjoys the us open, and if by luck he gets a good draw he should reach the finals, I don't understand why people keep writing the guy off, he just made the Wimbledon finals and for a guy who's almost 34 that's pretty damn good. I don't normally predict the winner of tournaments, but if federer is playing well, and has a good draw don't bet against him.


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    (Original post by The_K1NG)
    He should have won it in 2009 and 2014. 2011 was also a decent chance. It was probably the last time where he could physically compete and maybe beat Nadal in slams.
    I hope we have a first encounter between them this year, would be great


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    (Original post by ThatMadClown)
    I hope we have a first encounter between them this year, would be great


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    Yeah that would be great and given how bad Nadal is this year, Federer can beat him. But of course Federer will choke like he usually does against Nadal.
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    (Original post by The_K1NG)
    Yeah that would be great and given how bad Nadal is this year, Federer can beat him. But of course Federer will choke like he usually does against Nadal.
    Maybe not, he's new technique near the net would cause problems for nadal.


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    (Original post by The_K1NG)
    Yeah that would be great and given how bad Nadal is this year, Federer can beat him. But of course Federer will choke like he usually does against Nadal.
    Don't think Fed would beat Nadal tbh. Nadal's matchup will always cause him problems, even if Fed is in better form than Nadal.
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    (Original post by Krish4791)
    I agree with this, he had decent chances to win in 2009, 2011 and 2014 (imo he blew the 2009 final - could have been 6 in a row)

    Djokovic, as it stands now, is the heavy favourite. We will see how things stand after Montreal and Cincinnati.
    yeah he should definitely have won 2 more us opens. i agree 2009 and 2014 were great chances that he squandered. 2010 and 2011 were excellent chances to get to the final, but he would have lost to nadal anyway had he got to those finals.


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    Don't think Fed would beat Nadal tbh. Nadal's matchup will always cause him problems, even if Fed is in better form than Nadal.
    i agree nadal always causes federer problems. nadal plays a game of attrition from the baseline, hitting looping topspin forehands to federer's backhand until federer makes an unforced error. federer gets owned hard by that style of play, whether nadal is in form or not.

    (Original post by ThatMadClown)
    He had a chance last year as well...it was just his luck that he came across GOATing cilic in the semi finals...he enjoys the us open, and if by luck he gets a good draw he should reach the finals, I don't understand why people keep writing the guy off, he just made the Wimbledon finals and for a guy who's almost 34 that's pretty damn good. I don't normally predict the winner of tournaments, but if federer is playing well, and has a good draw don't bet against him.


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    i'm not saying he isn't good and i'm sure he'll make it far in the tournament. but he won't win it. at least not if he has to play djokovic or nadal. and like we saw the last 3 years, even if he doesn't have to play djokovic or nadal, he'll probably still lose.
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    (Original post by snowman77)
    yeah he should definitely have won 2 more us opens. i agree 2009 and 2014 were great chances that he squandered. 2010 and 2011 were excellent chances to get to the final, but he would have lost to nadal anyway had he got to those finals.


    i agree nadal always causes federer problems. nadal plays a game of attrition from the baseline, hitting looping topspin forehands to federer's backhand until federer makes an unforced error. federer gets owned hard by that style of play, whether nadal is in form or not.

    i'm not saying he isn't good and i'm sure he'll make it far in the tournament. but he won't win it. at least not if he has to play djokovic or nadal. and like we saw the last 3 years, even if he doesn't have to play djokovic or nadal, he'll probably still lose.
    That's the thing with federer these days, all he needs a good two weeks with a good draw, we'll see how it pans out though


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    Federer's got a shot, but the US Open is one of the most level playing fields out of the slams because there are so many excellent hard court players around these days. In other words, it's not just Djokovic that can cause him problems, no matter how brilliant a hard court player he is. Stan, Nishikori, Berdych and Cilic (I guess) can cause and have caused upsets in the past because they hit heavy and are rewarded on the fastest slam surface.

    Rafa is playing Hamburg next week. On clay, but I guess he could do with practice, on any surface.
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    (Original post by The_K1NG)
    A bit late but very disappointed with Federer losing another Wimbledon final. He was great in the first two sets but had nothing left in the tank after that. Looks like he needs to avoid Djokovic to win another slam. That loss against Cilic at the US Open last year is looking more and more idiotic now.
    Which way would you look at it, see it that cilic played the match of his life and that whole tournament no one could've touched him.
    No you're wrong fed has and still can beat nolè at any slam it literally is a few key points in it. Even this year the last 2 sets were actually close if you rethink of the tight games and points.
    If Fed plays like the cincy final 2012 where he bagled nolè he can do anything once again.
    I find it strange that Murray vs Djokovic are tight games but federer destroys Murray.
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    (Original post by ThatMadClown)
    He had a chance last year as well...it was just his luck that he came across GOATing cilic in the semi finals...he enjoys the us open, and if by luck he gets a good draw he should reach the finals, I don't understand why people keep writing the guy off, he just made the Wimbledon finals and for a guy who's almost 34 that's pretty damn good. I don't normally predict the winner of tournaments, but if federer is playing well, and has a good draw don't bet against him.


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    That would be hilarious if he had like karlovic in the 3rd round then nadal in 4th then berdych in quarters followed by Stan in semis than nolé in finals...
    That would be one hell of a draw hey?
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    (Original post by Rkai01)
    That would be hilarious if he had like karlovic in the 3rd round then nadal in 4th then berdych in quarters followed by Stan in semis than nolé in finals...
    That would be one hell of a draw hey?
    One can only hope that won't happen :P


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    I still think Djok and Murray are the best matchups for Fed. He can just about match Djok in terms of playing, its his stamina and athleticism that he can't match and Nadal relies on that more than any other player.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I still think Djok and Murray are the best matchups for Fed. He can just about match Djok in terms of playing, its his stamina and athleticism that he can't match and Nadal relies on that more than any other player.
    Thing is federer isn't 28 anymore, he can't keep up in longer rallies...


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    (Original post by Krish4791)
    I agree with this, he had decent chances to win in 2009, 2011 and 2014 (imo he blew the 2009 final - could have been 6 in a row)

    Djokovic, as it stands now, is the heavy favourite. We will see how things stand after Montreal and Cincinnati.
    Everyone thought Murray and nolé were the favourites back in 2013 and what happened?
    The answer was a certain spaniard sweeped the whole us series.
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    (Original post by ThatMadClown)
    One can only hope that won't happen :P


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    I hope it does.
    Because if fed manages to clean them up everyone will shut up about him bein a weak era gs winner.
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    (Original post by Rkai01)
    Everyone thought Murray and nolé were the favourites back in 2013 and what happened?
    The answer was a certain spaniard sweeped the whole us series.
    Nah, Nadal was co-favourite (along with Djokovic) in most people's eyes after his impressive hard court Masters performances back then. He also won IW, Madrid, Rome and RG so was riding a big streak, like Djokovic is this year. I agree that the favourite tag doesn't mean much though, you have to actually deliver.


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    (Original post by Rkai01)
    I hope it does.
    Because if fed manages to clean them up everyone will shut up about him bein a weak era gs winner.
    I thought he did a good job of silencing them in 2012 itself.


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