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    (Original post by Norin)
    Who cares about that, the Master snogged the Doctors face off!

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    I was hoping it would be the Rani or someone.

    THE MASTER CAN'T BE A WOMAN, THIS RUINS EVERYTHING :bawling: :bawling:
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    (Original post by Hype en Ecosse)
    It was the other way around for me. I totally missed the exoskeleton comments, but the windows are what tipped me off!

    That was a fantastic episode, really brilliant. Bit boring that Missy is the Master, though. Would've been fun if it was some other Time Lord from the canon, rather than the same old enemy again.
    It's the Master though!!
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    Excellent (though with a few reservations, like the secret about the skeletons being incredibly obvious). See, I KNEW that if they did a two-parter they could actually shovel in a proper story. Looking forward to next week!
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    (Original post by Maid Marian)
    I was hoping it would be the Rani or someone.

    THE MASTER CAN'T BE A WOMAN, THIS RUINS EVERYTHING :bawling: :bawling:
    It can't be that bad.....

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    Much better episode. It's just such a shame the Master storyline is intertwined with the godawful Clara/Danny storyline, and predictably Danny will have some significant role in stopping the Master
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    (Original post by Maid Marian)
    I was hoping it would be the Rani or someone.

    THE MASTER CAN'T BE A WOMAN, THIS RUINS EVERYTHING :bawling: :bawling:
    Time Lords can swap genders. :dontknow: Having a female iteration does nothing to detract from the Master's menace and lore.

    (Original post by GCSEsitter)
    Same.
    I don't get why the master needed to waste two minutes of screen time pretending to be a robot just so (s)he could kiss the doctor.
    It's not a waste of screen time "just to kiss the doctor", rather it's 1. misleading the viewer to create a more suspenseful climax, and 2. developing the personality of the character. These sorts of interactions are important in gauging who the character is and what role they play: it fits in with the nonchalant, unhinged, psychopathic malevolence - as opposed to the raging malice of John Simm's Master.
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    (Original post by Norin)
    It can't be that bad.....

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    It is, I'm gutted.

    (Original post by Hype en Ecosse)
    Time Lords can swap genders. :dontknow: Having a female iteration does nothing to detract from the Master's menace and lore.
    They shouldn't be able to, I don't agree with it at all. :no: Feel very, very disappointed.
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    (Original post by Maid Marian)
    It is, I'm gutted.


    They shouldn't be able to, I don't agree with it at all. :no: Feel very, very disappointed.
    Why is it so upsetting?
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    that was. AWESOME.

    seriously, just WOW, so many twists, so much clever, so much wow, so much win!

    cybermen controlled by the master created from all the dead humans...holy ****ing **** ****!

    also, the master as a woman? GENIUS!
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    You know, Chris Addison was great in that episode, didn't think it'd work but he's got that horrible smarmy cheeriness. I agree with Maid Marian, the gender change shouldn't happen. It was there primarily for shock value. Unless:

    Miss Clara>Miss C>Missy.

    That's the only way I see it being relevant.
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    (Original post by Hype en Ecosse)
    Why is it so upsetting?
    Because the Master is a MAN. I just .. no, no I can't :no:

    And we all know what's going to come next - a female Doctor. If that happens, I'm out.

    MOFFAT :rant:
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    (Original post by Jean-Luc Picard)

    also, the master as a woman? GENIUS!
    How...how is it genius? :confused:

    It's lame, predictable and ruins the history of the show.
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    (Original post by Maid Marian)
    It is, I'm gutted.
    I just wanna know why she kissed him, and for me personally it was the best so far



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    (Original post by GCSEsitter)
    Still seems a bit weird. Why does Danny have to choose to be deleted? Why not convert everyone automatically? Why would the master help the cybermen? Why is Clara still here? They travelled apparently to the depths of the universe, switching off shields and nav-com just so they could get into London, they could have just taken the bus?
    Yeah I'm pretty sure they will answer those questions next week mate.......
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    I really enjoyed it! It's a shock of the master being a woman, but I think that's far more easy to get to terms with than if the doctor was

    Master and cybermen - brilliant!
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    Dr who is back!
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    (Original post by Maid Marian)
    And we all know what's going to come next - a female Doctor. If that happens, I'm out.

    MOFFAT :rant:
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    (Original post by Hype en Ecosse)
    It was the other way around for me. I totally missed the exoskeleton comments, but the windows are what tipped me off!

    That was a fantastic episode, really brilliant. Bit boring that Missy is the Master, though. Would've been fun if it was some other Time Lord from the canon, rather than the same old enemy again.
    Now I thought the exoskeleton comment was obvious - an inorganic humanoid exoskeleton, fairly obvious what that is.

    Not sure about that - I like seeing the master back. John simm was one of my favourite villains, I'm looking forward to seeing how gomez does, and what shlers connection to clara is.

    Don't see the problem with the gender change - it's been hinted at as canon before: the corsair in the doctors wife, creates an interesting twist as well.

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    Amazing episode! I'm surprised so many people dislike the whole Missy/Master thing... I think it's brilliant. I was hoping the Master was going to make another appearance!
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    (Original post by Maid Marian)
    How...how is it genius? :confused:

    It's lame, predictable and ruins the history of the show.
    I didn't find it lame or predictable.

    Its a genius plot twist cause many wouldn't of predicted it imo.

    As for the shows history? They had female time lords/ladies in the classic series! Why do you hate the idea of a female master so much? Would you be outraged it the master was gay or black?


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