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10% for me.

But, hmm I plan to work next semester and get like 90+ in all exams. Just have to study it during the summer holiday so I know everything before going to lectures.

P.S. I don't much like yu gi oh 5d. It seems stupid. Tbf, the original series is still the best, can't beat the characters in it.
Ah, cool!

5D's is so much darker theme than the original series. GX is just lame.
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Don't think so.

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I'm Freeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This afternoon I have the one module I really like and can (kinda) do... If this doesn't go brilliantly, then I am ******.
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I'm Freeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Already? My last day/day of hell isn't until Tuesday. Currently scrambling around for as many extra "btw, this is another cool extension of *blah* we don't have time to prove" tidbits to include in my project.
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I can't wait till next year, no mechanics. Mechanics has cost me a first thing year, plus failing workshop 2.

Yeah, not good.

P.S. Anyway, accommodation is expensive, like paying during summer holiday and stuff.

P.P.S. Need to get a laptop that can play starcraft 2.
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I can't wait till next year, no mechanics. Mechanics has cost me a first thing year, plus failing workshop 2.

Yeah, not good.

P.S. Anyway, accommodation is expensive, like paying during summer holiday and stuff.

P.P.S. Need to get a laptop that can play starcraft 2.
But Mechanics is so simple...
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But Mechanics is so simple...
Well, if its not abstract nonsense to me, then its not simple. Mechanics refers to the actual world and stuff, and so is not simple as its not logical.

Linear algebra is simple.
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Well, if its not abstract nonsense to me, then its not simple. Mechanics refers to the actual world and stuff, and so is not simple as its not logical.

Linear algebra is simple.
The natural world is farking logical. It's also empirical.
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Probability,, DYnamics, Stats all logical as you work from a few given axioms to derive the results (and when you do need to apply your experience of the real world it is to represent the notion you udnerstand how to model something and that you are applying th maths).
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The natural world is farking logical. It's also empirical.
I would disagree with that. Certainly, most things aren't logic like the economy for example.

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Probability,, DYnamics, Stats all logical as you work from a few given axioms to derive the results (and when you do need to apply your experience of the real world it is to represent the notion you udnerstand how to model something and that you are applying th maths).
Well, I can state the axioms of probability, but even then for example the axiom of total probability makes sense from definitions and stuff.

But, in dynamics can you state the axioms? and even then. Like potential wells, what the hell are the axioms for that? or even the axioms of path equations and then its like what the axiom for moments?
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Axioms are empirical.
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Axioms are empirical.
Not really. How is say the axiom of infinity empirical? unless, there is say empirical evidence of the notion called infinity.

Or even the axiom of abstractions?

Also, I don't know you could call say axiom of total probability empirical.

P.S. Axioms to me are more of primitive concept. Like probability is a primitive concept, or say a straight line is a primitive concept. Sets obviously being the most primitive i.e. collection of stuff.
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No, you misunderstand. We don't just invent axioms out of thin air, we use them to formalize certain natural intuitions we have about the systems we study. Such as the axiom of infinity. We want there to be numbers as large as we like, so we formalize that as an axiom and then see where that least us.

Likewise, the axioms that define the real numbers are the desirable properties that objects we want to call real numbers have.
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No, you misunderstand. We don't just invent axioms out of thin air, we use them to formalize certain natural intuitions we have about the systems we study. Such as the axiom of infinity. We want there to be numbers as large as we like, so we formalize that as an axiom and then see where that least us.

Likewise, the axioms that define the real numbers are the desirable properties that objects we want to call real numbers have.
Intuition is like the opposite of being empirical. Also, in a sense some axioms are out of thin air or they would have been obvious to all. Axiom of choice being one of them.

The point I'm trying to make is that you can't empricial show that they exist a set of natural number that is infinite big. Nor is it obvious that sets exist or that there are actual numbers? Hence, intuition and primitive assumptions.

P.S. Also, proof is not empirical.
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Good luck to any IA Cambridge mathmos btw.

V+M or Analysis? Differential Equations or Probability?
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Intuition is like the opposite of being empirical. Also, in a sense some axioms are out of thin air or they would have been obvious to all. Axiom of choice being one of them.

The point I'm trying to make is that you can't empricial show that they exist a set of natural number that is infinite big. Nor is it obvious that sets exist or that there are actual numbers? Hence, intuition and primitive assumptions.

P.S. Also, proof is not empirical.
Not really - we all have some intuition about the thing we want to prove - we could draw a diagram, do an experiment, etc or just bash out lots of numbers to look for a pettern. Once we have some intuiition of what the final outcome will be we want to prove from certain assumptions. We can go as far back as we want but we need to eventually stop - so why not stop at something as basic as you can possible can [i.e. a set]. However, we all "know" that you can count idnefinitely and if you just specify a few very easy to accept properties for sets to have we need to start incorporating one that allows us to form arbitarly large sets. Similarly we can mess around with things and note that with our current axioms aren't sufficent for us yet - hence we need a few more [like the AOC, etc].

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Axioms are empirical.
Yes, but I don't see the relevance of that here - the point was that we work from these axioms only and every time we do a problem we are not just appplying extreme real world experience.
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Good luck to any IA Cambridge mathmos btw.

V+M or Analysis? Differential Equations or Probability?
Good luck to you too :yy:

I'm aiming for 3 V&M and 2 Analysis. This should really be my best paper, but I'm still **** scared... :afraid:

With paper 2 I'm not so sure, DE questions tend not to be too hard, but the chance of messing up is high. Some probability questions seem pretty easy but others look easy and then are actually ridiculously hard, others are just ridiculously hard...
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It's all about paper 3.
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It's all about paper 3.
tru dat

On the other hand, paper 4...
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