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    (Original post by Hasan_Ahmed)
    I'm not sure if you've read the thread up to this point or just the title. A lot of evidence has been cited to show that it isn't the quran itself which is barbaric, but the reinterpretation of its meaning via the intentional redefinition of words by scholars during the 13th and 14th centuries, as well as the production of false, often contradictory historical narrations of muhammad before, during and after that period. I agree with you that the majority of muslims in europe follow an interpretation of the quran which, if they followed properly, they'd all be terrorists. That needs to change, asap. And I agree that using the race issue is ridiculous, because islamic ideologies are exactly that - ideologies, which people -choose- to adhere to and believe in.
    Good point, I've only read the first couple of pages.
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    (Original post by Hasan_Ahmed)
    Welp. Ethnically, angles and saxons were both germanic, and during that era there was no 'germany', so descent from all germanic races, including the norse could be called 'german' blood.
    Yeah you get a problem there, my ancestors weren't just from the saxon kingdoms but i also have nordic ancestors as well. in any case i prefer to use the modern term as i feel i have more in common with the Germans than the Britons
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Yes habibi
    Yet by your own definition you're a Syrian Arab not just a British woman.


    #systematicoftheproblem


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    (Original post by paul514)
    Yet by your own definition you're a Syrian Arab not just a British woman.


    #systematicoftheproblem


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    Syrians/levants aren't even originally Arabs,but that's another story :rofl:

    I'm a British Arab/British Italian
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Syrians/levants aren't even originally Arabs,but that's another story :rofl:

    I'm a British Arab/British Italian
    British by birth right
    Arab and Italian by descent
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    (Original post by DeathGuardElite)
    British by birth right
    Arab and Italian by descent
    Spot on
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Exactly my point. Why are Syrians leaving their country @hydeman? It's simple. They too are facing the same thing on a daily basis. They are trying to escape this misery. And you want to prevent them from doing so? Bishes be tripping
    One of the attackers was a refugee, I honestly didn't agree with our open border policy when it came down to the refugees. None of them have documents, their identities can't even be proved. What about that gang of refugees who gang raped a teenage girl? It's all well and good to cry islamophobia but the truth is, its not. Nobody else is allowed past anyone else's borders without documentation.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    Spot on
    Not that hard or complicated really

    (Original post by LalaKitten)
    One of the attackers was a refugee, I honestly didn't agree with our open border policy when it came down to the refugees. None of them have documents, their identities can't even be proved. What about that gang of refugees who gang raped a teenage girl? It's all well and good to cry islamophobia but the truth is, its not. Nobody else is allowed past anyone else's borders without documentation.
    In my POV if you have no documents you will be barred from entry permanently unless you can provide documents.
    heck even on that if a gang of refugees gang rape a teenage girl i would actually support gunning them down despite the fact i am against the death penalty for murder. in my ideas gang rapes proven rapes and people who molest children should be punished with death
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    (Original post by LalaKitten)
    One of the attackers was a refugee, I honestly didn't agree with our open border policy when it came down to the refugees. None of them have documents, their identities can't even be proved. What about that gang of refugees who gang raped a teenage girl? It's all well and good to cry islamophobia but the truth is, its not. Nobody else is allowed past anyone else's borders without documentation.
    You do realise it's not just Muslims who've lived in Syria? Well that's a decision for the western governments to make, and whether they will be closing their borders for the time being
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    OP YOU ARE RACIST.
    I am quite far right wing in my own thinking, but this is clearly an unfeasable idea which has no moral justification.
    Do i really have to say it out that not all muslims/followers are terrorists??
    You are despicable.
    (I am not a muslim myself)
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    You do realise it's not just Muslims who've lived in Syria? Well that's a decision for the western governments to make, and whether they will be closing their borders for the time being
    You can try and twist my words all you want, I don't have an issue with Islam, or Muslims. My issue is that people, who are potentially dangerous have been allowed into our European countries and we have no idea who these people are or their criminal history.
    My views on the border policy has nothing to do with religion, I know what it feels like to be prejudged for my religion. I just feel that letting everybody and anybody past our borders without documentation is a safeguarding nightmare.
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    (Original post by Speedbird189)
    Absolutely. For decades, Europe have completely ignored the true barbarity of the Qur'an and it is time to wake up. Unfortunately, in every instance that such a point is made, the 'race' card is used.
    How can you say the Qur'an itself is barbaric? It is the extremists that are barbaric and not 99% of people who follow Islam in peace with the upmost respect to different race and religions!
    It is not Islam or its book that's the problem it is the extremists forget Islam as the issue


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    These people doing these things are evil insane people much like nazi Germany under Hitler. Not everybody supports ISIS.
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    [/QUOTE]In my POV if you have no documents you will be barred from entry permanently unless you can provide documents.
    heck even on that if a gang of refugees gang rape a teenage girl i would actually support gunning them down despite the fact i am against the death penalty for murder. in my ideas gang rapes proven rapes and people who molest children should be punished with death[/QUOTE]

    I personally do not believe in the death penalty or guns. I feel that the death penalty equates to pre-meditated murder and two wrongs don't make a right.
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    (Original post by muffingg)
    I don't know what Qur'an you're reading
    http://quran.com/
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    (Original post by LalaKitten)
    You can try and twist my words all you want, I don't have an issue with Islam, or Muslims. My issue is that people, who are potentially dangerous have been allowed into our European countries and we have no idea who these people are or their criminal history.
    My views on the border policy has nothing to do with religion, I know what it feels like to be prejudged for my religion. I just feel that letting everybody and anybody past our borders without documentation is a safeguarding nightmare.
    You're getting ahead of yourself,nobody said you had an issue with Muslims I'm just pointing out to you that not all migrants coming here are Muslims although the majority are.
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    (Original post by pereira325)
    OP YOU ARE RACIST.
    I am quite far right wing in my own thinking, but this is clearly an unfeasable idea which has no moral justification.
    Do i really have to say it out that not all muslims/followers are terrorists??
    You are despicable.
    (I am not a muslim myself)
    Muslims are not a race. Please don't racialise us.


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    (Original post by BGreen123)
    How can you say the Qur'an itself is barbaric? It is the extremists that are barbaric and not 99% of people who follow Islam in peace with the upmost respect to different race and religions!
    It is not Islam or its book that's the problem it is the extremists forget Islam as the issue


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    The version of Islam most widely practiced interprets the Quran violently. If you read any of the modern english translations (written by people from that interpretation) it will be quite obvious to you.


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    (Original post by z0zza)
    if muslims were a signficant threat, there is billion+ of them. we would be dead/living in a warzone
    The vast majority of them living in foreign countries with very little military power (many of which are indeed themselves war zones).

    also, who is to say white men don't have these attitudes? there was a surge of support from white men for the 2014 isla vista killings, but i highly doubt anyone will be performing a survey for them any time soon
    I certainly didn't notice any support from anyone for a frustrated virgin murdering his college roommates. What possibly would make you think that?
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    (Original post by Ace123)
    After yet more terrible terror attacks in France is it time that Europe faces reality and bans Islam & muslim immigration to Europe, muslim attacks seems never ending, 9/11, 7/7, Lee Rigby, Madrid Bombings, Belgium attacks, Rotherham Abuse, Charlie Hebdo & now more attacks in Paris.

    So long as the west stays out of the middle east which it wont.............
 
 
 
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