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    (Original post by The Epicurean)
    Indeed. I discussed this topic in a PM not too long ago. I think there is a pretty strong argument for undertaking such a policy:






    Islam isn't banned in Angola or Japan. I know Muslims who have lived in Japan.

    I wouldn't want to ban Islam.

    http://www.onenewsnow.com/perspectiv...-no-terrorists

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-mosques.html



    Read more and get on my level
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    (Original post by The Epicurean)
    Indeed. I discussed this topic in a PM not too long ago. I think there is a pretty strong argument for undertaking such a policy:






    Islam isn't banned in Angola or Japan. I know Muslims who have lived in Japan.

    I wouldn't want to ban Islam.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-mosques.html
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    (Original post by The Epicurean)
    Indeed. I discussed this topic in a PM not too long ago. I think there is a pretty strong argument for undertaking such a policy:






    Islam isn't banned in Angola or Japan. I know Muslims who have lived in Japan.

    I wouldn't want to ban Islam.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-mosques.html

    http://www.onenewsnow.com/perspectiv...-no-terrorists
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    (Original post by QE2)
    The Quran promotes both peace and violence, tolerance and intolerance.
    You would know that if you had read it.

    Are you high?

    Explain how the Quran teaches religious freedom. (Article 18)
    The Quran does not forbid slavery, it permits it. (Article 4)
    The Quran prescribes torture and inhuman punishment (Article 5)
    Why are women discriminated against in some legal situations (Article 7)

    http://www.un.org/en/universal-decla...-human-rights/
    I'm just going to put the 'Islamic response' to UDHR here...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_...ights_in_Islam
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    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    This common misquoting of this verse by Muslims has been a thing since professional BS artist Zakir Naik came out with it once in a sermon he did. Since barely of them have even read the Qur'an themselves, they keep spouting it as some sort of evidence that Islam is the religion of peace.

    It's basically "it's bad if you kill an innocent person.......innocent being anybody who follows Islam" lol.
    It was even quoted incorrectly in a press release by American Muslim Community Centers. There is no way that someone in that position would not know the full verse and context.
    Therefore they were being deliberately dishonest in order to mislead people.
    http://www.amccenters.org/viewnews.php?id=154
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    (Original post by The Epicurean)
    Indeed. I discussed this topic in a PM not too long ago. I think there is a pretty strong argument for undertaking such a policy:






    Islam isn't banned in Angola or Japan. I know Muslims who have lived in Japan.

    I wouldn't want to ban Islam.
    Those numbers were quite spurprising (though they do make sense too).
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    (Original post by QE2)
    Are you high?
    I think that this statement is a terrific testimony of the level of brainwashing among Muslim communities and how children can be brainwashed by their parents. She obviously repeated something she heard elsewhere, eg. "they got their human rights from the Quran".
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    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    This common misquoting of this verse by Muslims has been a thing since professional BS artist Zakir Naik came out with it once in a sermon he did. Since barely of them have even read the Qur'an themselves, they keep spouting it as some sort of evidence that Islam is the religion of peace.

    It's basically "it's bad if you kill an innocent person.......innocent being anybody who follows Islam" lol.
    http://neutralreply.blogspot.co.uk/p/blog-page_16.html
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    Ngl I stopped reading at "in their own countries".

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    (Original post by Fight Me)
    Why are more people concerned over the loss of western lives, than the loss of middle eastern lives, it does not make sense.

    You do not know either of them, you do not know of their lives, so how can you feel closer to them?
    You're being purposely obtuse. Things as simple as a shared language can make people closer like international students sticking together even though they know each other as much as they know the home students. Do you really expect people to show the same emotion for countries half a world away geographically, linguistically and culturally as they do their own?

    I can only imagine the amount of homophobic attacks that must happen in Africa. People do care of course but just the same as the middle east it doesn't hit as hard as people who are more similar to yourself.
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    You know whats extremely sad about events like this?

    And this goes without fail. Whenever the world is stuck by a terrorist attack why is it the first thing people want to do is somewhat defend or justify the attack.

    All i've seen today on social media including TSR are people trying to justify Islam, "They dont represent the actions of us all", "dont generalise us" "Islam is peace not hate!" etc etc.

    The funny thing is, you defending your own belief system BEFORE even showing any bit of sympathy for the victims shows me enough. It shows me that people have more of an issue with their precious beliefs been criticised than they do with 50 people being killed based on their sexuality.

    Disgusting.
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    (Original post by Cobalt_)
    You know whats extremely sad about events like this?

    And this goes without fail. Whenever the world is stuck by a terrorist attack why is it the first thing people want to do is somewhat defend or justify the attack.

    All i've seen today on social media including TSR are people trying to justify Islam, "They dont represent the actions of us all", "dont generalise us" "Islam is peace not hate!" etc etc.

    The funny thing is, you defending your own belief system BEFORE even showing any bit of sympathy for the victims shows me enough. It shows me that people have more of an issue with their precious beliefs been criticised than they do with 50 people being killed based on their sexuality.

    Disgusting.
    I agree with the sentiment, but I disagree with the connotations that they lack sympathy; they needn't express sympathy to have sympathy.

    Of course [expressed] sympathy would be appreciated though.

    I guess some people just follow the idea of "The past is already written; the ink is dry." Or are just desensitised to it or are detached from it. (Not that these are necessarily good or alright though.)

    I also disagree with the statement "Disgusting" as I don't think it's applicable to every person who does this; although presumably few in numbers, sociopaths exist, and I don't think it's their fault they lack empathy.

    I don't mean to butcher a well-intentioned post, but things came to mind when I read your post.

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    (Original post by Oblivion99)
    Muslim attitudes have changed since the 7th century. Okay the religious scriptures has played a part in homosexual discrimination, it has also been culture - as Islam has a strong and Arabian core influence. However these have changed, as we have moved towards the modern era's.
    Yep, there's been a change alright.
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    WTF was that supposed to be?
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    Those justifications are all wrong.
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    Yep, there's been a change alright.
    Absolutely disgusting. I'm genuinely appalled and I'm usually meh to everything I see online.
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    So was he mentally ill or are they stil saying it's all to do with religion?
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    He was an islamic terrorist who pledged allegiance to ISIS.


    Whether he was mentally ill is a different question
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    Secret services at it again with another false flag

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    (Original post by SamuraiSami)
    Hi, but not all Muslims "force" their religious teachings onto others, this mass killing has lead to a huge number of casualties, but it was not all Muslims who did this, as by saying Muslims means you are implying the entire Muslim community- which is not true. Majority of the Muslims right now are at home fasting, lazing around at home, either watching the football match, practicing the religion e.g praying, reading the qur'an or some may be sleeping. So it is not all Muslims being radical and killing the western world, it is only a small minority as there are roughly 1.6 billion Muslims globally. So think before you rage your thoughts on the internet and calm down. I for one am a Muslim, i think it is horrible for what has happened and i give my condolences to them. I am not homophobic, in fact i have a classmate who is also my friend and she is lesbian/ bisexual ( she changes her mind but she is in between these two choices). I do not hate her or despise or "force" my religious teachings onto her.
    Hi, you should have read the topic that I was discussing... I was discussing an organisation that is LGBT and have set out with the aim to make Muslims more accepting of gay people. I was saying that some Muslims will not agree with their lifestyle and it is not right to force someone to accept something their religion clearly outlines as wrong.
 
 
 
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