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    Absolutely disgusting move by people to pin murderer to certain ideologies or movements without any police reports or hard evidence.
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    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
    No no, I saw it. It was very manly and I'm now quite convinced that I was wrong to make light of your bravado.
    I'm glad you admit your shortcomings, it's heartwarming, really
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Or he could be outside because he was waiting for her.

    You have no idea of his mental status either, making most your speculation useless.
    I am not the one saying that he did something like you and your fellow leftists, that are claiming that she was assassinated, that he was a nationalist, that he killed her for something EU related, a big difference.

    I am waiting for the facts and want people to stop lying and bending truths.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    I am not the one saying that he did something like you and your fellow leftists, that are claiming that she was assassinated, that he was a nationalist, that he killed her for something EU related, a big difference.

    I am waiting for the facts and want people to stop lying and bending truths.
    thats weird because usually you're all pouncing on it 'radical islamic terrorism bla bla bla'
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    I am not the one saying that he did something like you and your fellow leftists, that are claiming that she was assassinated, that he was a nationalist, that he killed her for something EU related, a big difference.

    I am waiting for the facts and want people to stop lying and bending truths.
    I never said that it was related to the EU. That is simply made up by you.

    If you are waiting for "facts", then i have no clue why you are going on about his mental status when you don;t know anything about it.

    I am simply going off the Newspaper reports, which is quite reasonable at this stage.
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    I never said that it was related to the EU. That is simply made up by you.

    If you are waiting for "facts", then i have no clue why you are going on about his mental status when you don;t know anything about it.

    I am simply going off the Newspaper reports, which is quite reasonable at this stage.
    Going off newspaper reports a few hours after the murder ALLEGING stuff happened without hard evidence or police report isn't reasonable. Especially as you know the implications punish a campaign who you oppose.
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    (Original post by Thutmose-III)
    In fairness, that one Prime Minister who was assassinated was iirc Lord Liverpool about 180 years ago.
    You say that in a way that suggests it undermines my contention that violence against politicians is not a new phenomenon

    It was Spencer Perceval

    Politicians of all stripes have reported increasing levels of abuse and violence. Abuse and death threats are much more common than they were prior to the internet becoming ubiquitous
    The internet makes communicating much quicker and easier. Obviously there will be more death threats than before.

    But I simply don't see any evidence that violence against politicians is more common today than it's ever been
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    thats weird because usually you're all pouncing on it 'radical islamic terrorism bla bla bla'
    The Orlando terrorist pledged allegiance to ISIS on 911 before the massacre. It's not the same situation here.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    The Orlando terrorist pledged allegiance to ISIS on 911 before the massacre. It's not the same situation here.
    Yes it is, he shouted Britain First.

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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Yes it is, he shouted Britain First.

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    STOP LYING. The murder did not shout Britain First. It actually turns out the 'witness' wasn't even at the scene.
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    (Original post by slaven)
    Righty here. I will comment it for you.

    Firstly, the MP was opposing the EU. But even if she did not, this is still nothing compare the Islamo-left did in the last couple of years. You stock just recently killed 50 people in a gay club, our stuck was just this one incident and even it is not yet confirm whether the perpetrator was a right-winger. While I do condemnt this attack the MP should think now of all the victims of the muslims comiteed in the past years and have compassion.
    Thank you for showing compassion and condemning this attack, but the point is that the problem is not just with Muslims. As this pretty much proves, there's some form of violent tendency with every group of people of every persuasion, and any anti-Islam right winger who says (albeit rightly) that ordinary Muslims must do more without simultaneously at least condemning those holding their political beliefs who are inclined towards violent methods is, in my opinion, a hypocrite. Political violence in a democratic and free political system is always wrong, whatever the motivation and whether committed by left or right wingers.
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    (Original post by Sun_Bear)
    Going off newspaper reports a few hours after the murder ALLEGING stuff happened without hard evidence or police report isn't reasonable. Especially as you know the implications punish a campaign who you oppose.
    Yawn.

    I am tired of Brexiter's trying to shut down discussion.

    There is evidence to suggest he is a Nationalist. It isn't my issue that you don't like it.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    The Orlando terrorist pledged allegiance to ISIS on 911 before the massacre. It's not the same situation here.
    Yeh, well, this guy is White and shouted Britain first instead of Allah Akbar.

    That requires more investigation.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    The Orlando terrorist pledged allegiance to ISIS on 911 before the massacre. It's not the same situation here.
    And this guy allegedly shouted Britain First, I don't think passers by would make that up
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Yawn.

    I am tired of Brexiter's trying to shut down discussion.

    There is evidence to suggest he is a Nationalist. It isn't my issue that you don't like it.
    I would agree even as a brexiter, but there are contradicting reports. How about we let the media and the police straighten the situation out before we come to some flimsy conclusions?
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Yes it is, he shouted Britain First.

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    If we assume he did say it, does it confirm he was affiliated with them? I don't think Britain First have ever assassinated anyone before, doing it now on a fairly major figure just before a referendum doesn't really make sense and is a bit suspicious.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Yes it is, he shouted Britain First.

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    Britain First is not a terrorist group and it is a witness who reported that he shouted that, not the police.
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Yawn.

    I am tired of Brexiter's trying to shut down discussion.

    There is evidence to suggest he is a Nationalist. It isn't my issue that you don't like it.
    I'm shutting down people linking this murderer to the brexit campaign to try and persuade people not to vote for it.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    thats weird because usually you're all pouncing on it 'radical islamic terrorism bla bla bla'
    When an Islamic terrorist attack occurs, you have a problem with somebody saying that an Islamic terrorist attack has occurred? What a strange thought process you have.
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    (Original post by Sun_Bear)
    I'm shutting down people linking this murderer to the brexit campaign to try and persuade people not to vote for it.
    I have never mentioned the Brexit campaign.

    The only people that have mentioned the campaign are .... Brexiters.
 
 
 
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