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    (Original post by TheMagicalWizard)
    Nah, a male companion is OK, but you lack intimate times... and considering the doctor is now an arse to everyone else ... and theres no more "because im clever" from david and "bowties are cool" from matt.... there's just " im scottish, no, i cant be scottish". So yh gotta have them female companions who fancy theh doctor... personally id like and older female companion, because sarah jane was brilliant in tenth season 2 episode, its a pity she died... I really liked her and apparently she was a great person... but anyway, yh older female doctor FTW

    EDIT: captain jack became a massive face and died saving a city of people
    What? This is definitely not what I want. I think the majority of Doctor Who fans are sick to death of companions falling for the doctor constantly. We want platonic relationships.

    The doctor used to have male companions, but since the new ones there has only really been captain jack (who is still alive by the way, it is hinted that the face of boe is him very far in the future). I don't count Rory since he was just a tag-along really.

    Since Moffat is enjoying bringing back elements of classic Who, i think he should bring in a male companion again.
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    I thought that the acting from most people was fantastic. However I didn't really like the story. I am upset with the way that the Danny Clara story was resolved. I also don't think that they explained how the master came back well either.


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    (Original post by Stiff Little Fingers)
    The send off for Danny was ridiculous, I'll give you that, but Gallifrey - there wasn't really room in there to do it justice, it'd just be "oh, by the way Gallifrey is back" - which for what would be a decent story, would be incredibly underwhelming. Assuming by Oswin you're talking about the Dalek Asylum - that was just the scattered across the timeline thing (we saw Smiths doctor die in that scene when the Great Intelligence went through): although that raises a question: how did they get out of his time line?

    The master-doctor relationship was quite good I thought, although I am disappointed they killed off the master just like that, still, they killed off Simms master and he managed to come back again...
    It could've been explored a little beyond "The Master lied/was wrong", though. Missy pointed out how the Doctor hadn't bothered to look for Gallifrey, and there was no indication given that he intended to go out and find out - I would've liked at least a slight prod in that direction. Rather than "oop, well, it's not there, better go lie to Clara so she has no incentive to travel with me any more." It was heartwrenching seeing his anguish and anger, but it would've been nice to see some form of intention come out of that!

    I had a quick look up at that series' finale, and it makes sense to me again, after you grant a bit of artistic liberty.

    I do think the relationship was fantastic, but it could've been explored so much more. We got a great insight into the Master's view of her relationship with the Doctor and there was great interaction between the two, but we didn't get as much exploration in the other direction.

    Simm's came back because of the whole Gallifrey resurrection. I feel like it's a bit cheap if they create another loophole to bring them back! That's why I'm hoping that one the poster's above is right, and she was actually teleported rather than disintegrated (after all, since when has a Cyberman shot instantly disintegrated a Time Lord?), otherwise it's just a bit disappointing.

    I was thinking on this whole Nethersphere as well - how does the clockwork automaton from episode 1 end up there without mind or soul? Are we seriously trying to say that animate objects have conscious minds (esp. after all this stuff about basic programming)/souls? Or are we saying that it has acquired the mind/soul via the harvesting of human flesh??
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    Guys, the clara storyline is obviously not over. We already know she is in the christmas special.

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-...istmas-special
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    Can someone answer this as I'm not sure and am seeing multiple answers

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    Did Missy get killed at the end by the Cyberman Brigadier?
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    I'm relatively new to Dr. Who... So apologies if this seems a dumb question, but if Missy/Master is a time lord, how come they didn't regenerate after getting shot?
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    (Original post by randdom)
    I thought that the acting from most people was fantastic. However I didn't really like the story. I am upset with the way that the Danny Clara story was resolved. I also don't think that they explained how the master came back well either.


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    This takes a bit of NuWho history to explain! We're led to believe that between the 8th and 9th incarnations of the Doctor, he was forced to use a weapon that destroyed Gallifrey, Skaro, the Daleks and the Time Lords in order to save the universe. These events became "time locked" (you couldn't revisit their history by travelling through time and changing things). Turns out, as we saw in the 50th anniversary, the Doctor with his incarnations managed to save Gallifrey from destruction and transport it off into another dimension.

    The last we saw of the Master, he was killed in the series 4 finale. Thanks to Gallifrey not actually being destroyed an earlier/later (wibbly wobbly timey wimey, we're not sure how this works), the Master is still kicking about on that planet in another dimension (hence he was never actually killed). He hijacks a TARDIS, finds his way out of that dimension and into our one, and boom! He's back.

    (Original post by Singh95)
    I'm relatively new to Dr. Who... So apologies if this seems a dumb question, but if Missy/Master is a time lord, how come they didn't regenerate after getting shot?
    Regeneration has its limits. It seems that if you vaporize a Time Lord, they can't regenerate, which you'd expect since they're now a pile of dust.
    If the shot just killed her (no vaporisation), she would've regenerated, unless you shot her again during the regeneration process.
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    (Original post by greeneyedgirl)
    I'm going to change it to how you felt about the season...never fear, GEG is here!
    :rofl: better late than never

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    (Original post by Singh95)
    I'm relatively new to Dr. Who... So apologies if this seems a dumb question, but if Missy/Master is a time lord, how come they didn't regenerate after getting shot?
    They were pretty much disintegrated so there wasn't really anything left to regenerate

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    I felt the Santa at the end was horrendous! I thought the basic premise of this episode could have been great but disappointed at how it all panned out particularly the ending. I think I read somewhere that Moffat said this would be the best finale yet, but it definitely wasn't even close. I did, however, like Missy in that episode she was actually crazy and truly terrifying particularly how easy it was for her to kill anyone and everyone for fun. The whole Danny saving the day was predictable, but I liked how he choose to bring the child back instead that was actually a nice touch. I wish we had seen if Clara found his parents or if she decided to raise him herself. I do have a question though since Danny is now dead does that mean that the soldier we saw in episode 2 or 3 who was Clara's future grand child not present anymore? :confused: I thought the doctors speech was ok lacked a bit of emphasis and made it more into a comedic thing rather than powerful and emotional. I do hope Missy/Master do come back since I've loved the masters character, and I hope that searching for Gallifrey is something they explore in the next season - this is particularly why I wanted the master to stay because a whole season with him and the doctor in the tardis trying to find their home would have been epic!!!
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    (Original post by Singh95)
    I'm relatively new to Dr. Who... So apologies if this seems a dumb question, but if Missy/Master is a time lord, how come they didn't regenerate after getting shot?
    She/He will eventually, they always return, he was shot last time and still found a way back.
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    just going to rant for a sec. Really enjoyed this episode, Michelle Gomez was (hopefully still is) a fantastic master, really liked the idea of why she did it. Especially liked the idea of her creating the army for him and how that's what he as always wanted (though was a bit similar to the whole stolen earth the doctor turns people into weapons).

    However that being said kate steward not dying and being saved by her father was just a insult, was ultimately unnecessary and totally predictable.

    Not enough has really been made about the doctor willing to kill somebody but hopefully that will be dealt with in the future.
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    (Original post by Hype en Ecosse)

    The last we saw of the Master, he was killed in the series 4 finale. Thanks to Gallifrey not actually being destroyed an earlier/later (wibbly wobbly timey wimey, we're not sure how this works), the Master is still kicking about on that planet in another dimension (hence he was never actually killed). He hijacks a TARDIS, finds his way out of that dimension and into our one, and boom! He's back.

    why don't the other timelords on Gallifrey just do the same thing if the Master could do it?:confused:
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    After the great part 1, that was just a bit rubbish. Missy is not bad as the Master but Simms was god like in the role and no flashback was made for her. The ending was utter soppy rubbish with love conquering all.

    (Original post by TheMagicalWizard)
    I agree somewhat. Capaldi and Gomez were great. However, again as nearly every plot/episode has been this season... It was terrible. I liked Moffats First season 5 episode and a couple after that, but I personally think he is not a fraction of how good Russell T Davies whas.... All of his seasons have VERY VERY guessable plot lines and are REALLY not suttle so at the season finale you go ... meh... Cant beat Season 4. that plotline is genius... because even though you get this "he will knock 4 times"... you never EVER guess it was gona be wilf... and davids before regen speech ... AMAZING... Can't beat tenth, tenth for life
    Season 4 was pitch perfect for the story and introduction of River. Even in episode 2 (Pompeii with Capaldi).. "She is returning.. and there is something on your back".. an epic paradox was set in motion.
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    (Original post by Teddysmith123)
    but I liked how he choose to bring the child back instead that was actually a nice touch.
    Yeah, this was one of my favourite parts of the episode. It was nice that he could finally make up for the thing that had been causing him guilt for all those years.

    I do like Clara but I sort of wish they'd let that be her ending. It was nice to have a companion able to just go back to trying to live a normal life but also to be able to contact the doctor if they ever wanted to. Hopefully they don't do something irritating like kill her off for no reason in the Christmas episode.
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    (Original post by Teddysmith123)
    why don't the other timelords on Gallifrey just do the same thing if the Master could do it?:confused:
    They're probably trying, but the Master is really clever compared to most. As is the Doctor!

    Or maybe the other Time Lords are quite happy in the other dimension. Who knows what's there. Might be a carbon copy of our universe, just without the Doctor.
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    (Original post by VladThe1mpaler)
    What? This is definitely not what I want. I think the majority of Doctor Who fans are sick to death of companions falling for the doctor constantly. We want platonic relationships.

    The doctor used to have male companions, but since the new ones there has only really been captain jack (who is still alive by the way, it is hinted that the face of boe is him very far in the future). I don't count Rory since he was just a tag-along really.

    Since Moffat is enjoying bringing back elements of classic Who, i think he should bring in a male companion again.
    They've probably got the BBC down their neck saying they have to have a female companion for diversity policies. There were people complaining when the new Doctor was announced as a white male so imagine the fury if the companion was a male as well!
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    I enjoyed that episode more than the first part. At least in this one I didn't know what was going to happen as they hadn't spoiled it with give-away previews.

    As long as I got over the frankly terrible incarnation of the Cybermen and Danny's cheese it was good. Probably a just above average episode for an average series. Not particularly enthused about Christmas though.
 
 
 
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