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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Except, the other day the IDF claimed it would;d take them three days to destroy the tunnel network, and surely given how many missile attacks and shellings Israel has made on Gaza the current supply should be as good as gone. Well, if they actually bothered attacking predominantly military targets.

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    Nice joke.
    I honestly think that it's impossible trying to debate with that Pinzgauer guy. They pretty much ignore any argument that criticises Israel or IDF tactics. It's almost like trying to use logic and reason against a religious fanatic.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
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    I wonder why you didn't respond to the sources I sent you! Is it because you can't admit that you were wrong and Hamas did ask its people to stay in their homes, claiming IDF is using 'psychological warfare' ?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Except, the other day the IDF claimed it would;d take them three days to destroy the tunnel network, and surely given how many missile attacks and shellings Israel has made on Gaza the current supply should be as good as gone. Well, if they actually bothered attacking predominantly military targets.
    Estimated to have had over 10,000 rockets.

    I don't know why you're confusing the tunnels with rockets. When I said the rockets were underground, I wasn't talking about storing them there. I mean underground launchers. Mechanised underground launchers that open trap doors, fire, then retreat below.


    Nice joke.
    Yes. yes you are.
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    (Original post by looseseal)
    I honestly think that it's impossible trying to debate with that Pinzgauer guy. They pretty much ignore any argument that criticises Israel or IDF tactics. It's almost like trying to use logic and reason against a religious fanatic.
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    French-Moroccan Imam derides terrorist Hamas and the hypocrites marching on the streets of Europe


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    (Original post by looseseal)
    I honestly think that it's impossible trying to debate with that Pinzgauer guy. They pretty much ignore any argument that criticises Israel or IDF tactics. It's almost like trying to use logic and reason against a religious fanatic.
    He's in Israeli shill which is why he ignores every post he can't answer and answers the rest of them with:

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    Lots of people seem to sign up to defend either side lol. Think I'm seeing a few more pro-israelis coming out of the woodwork.

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    (Original post by Pinzgauer)
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    LOL, the only people at that protest are obviously Palestinian and a bunch of crazy extreme leftists like the white lady with her dreadlocks friend. They were obviously high on weed when they learned about the conflict and swallowed the Hamas propaganda like their daily dose of E.

    Not to mention that a bunch of Arab guys were obviously trying to intimidate the guy, and when he tried to respond he was cut off by shots of 'Shame on You'.

    The Pro Palestinians, high extreme leftist hippies and Palestinians that immigrated elsewhere. We all know now.
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    (Original post by Pinzgauer)
    They have spent years building up their rocket infrastructure. Much of it is buried underground.

    It would take a long time to devastate it to the point of no more rockets being fired.

    You obviously have a poor grasp of military understanding.
    Do you have problems with grasping basic reading comprehension? I asked whether it had decreased rather than it ceasing entirely. A large proportion of Hamas' military infrastructure is within civilian areas in Gaza. Therefore, in any case, for Israel to "devastate it to the point of no more rockets being fired" they'd also have to wipe out a significant part of the populated sections of the Gaza strip (which links in with my other points if you had bothered to actually read my post).

    To be perfectly honest, I think you're generally being obtuse for the sake of it. You don't bother to respond legitimate arguments that go against your blind support for Israel's actions (I've seen this from many of your posts on this thread and others). Therefore, do not quote me as I don't think I'll be wasting any more time talking to a person who refuses to consider ideas that lie outside their narrow-minded viewpoint.
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    (Original post by miavdbt)
    LOL, the only people at that protest are obviously Palestinian and a bunch of crazy extreme leftists like the white lady with her dreadlocks friend. They were obviously high on weed when they learned about the conflict and swallowed the Hamas propaganda like their daily dose of E.

    Not to mention that a bunch of Arab guys were obviously trying to intimidate the guy, and when he tried to respond he was cut off by shots of 'Shame on You'.

    The Pro Palestinians, high extreme leftist hippies and Palestinians that immigrated elsewhere. We all know now.
    I must say these people truly make me cringe, frankly they embarass me. It's those people who let foreign flags go up outside out councils (eg tower hamlets). Nonsense. The lefties are wild in this country.

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    (Original post by Ggmu!)
    Lots of people seem to sign up to defend either side lol. Think I'm seeing a few more pro-israelis coming out of the woodwork.

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    I think it's just a natural reaction to the morally bankrupt and hypocritical anti-Israel mob.

    There's a conflict raging in Europe with an estimated 1,500 killed (no one knows exactly because no one seems to be keeping count like they do with Gaza) yet no a single protest.

    As soon as Gaza sparks up which is still a minor conflict not just in terms of global events but even regional events - that's when the Muslims and leftists toe-rags decide to protest.

    It's the hypocrisy that brings people out to support Israel.
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    He's in Israeli shill which is why he ignores every post he can't answer and answers the rest of them with:

    Pretty much every pro Palestinian on here has ignored reliable sources and points to keep on hammering their Hamas propaganda.
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    (Original post by Pinzgauer)
    I think it's just a natural reaction to the morally bankrupt and hypocritical anti-Israel mob.

    There's a conflict raging in Europe with an estimated 1,500 killed (no one knows exactly because no one seems to be keeping count like they do with Gaza) yet no a single protest.

    As soon as Gaza sparks up which is still a minor conflict not just in terms of global events but even regional events - that's when the Muslims and leftists toe-rags decide to protest.

    It's the hypocrisy that brings people out to support Israel.
    In this regard I agree with you. They are extremely hypocritical and give any reason they can to not do something about Syria and ISIS.

    However Israel's collective punishment of Palestinians for the actions of their terrorist government is, deplorable to say the least.

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    (Original post by miavdbt)
    LOL, the only people at that protest are obviously Palestinian and a bunch of crazy extreme leftists like the white lady with her dreadlocks friend. They were obviously high on weed when they learned about the conflict and swallowed the Hamas propaganda like their daily dose of E.

    Not to mention that a bunch of Arab guys were obviously trying to intimidate the guy, and when he tried to respond he was cut off by shots of 'Shame on You'.

    The Pro Palestinians, high extreme leftist hippies and Palestinians that immigrated elsewhere. We all know now.

    Did you hear what she was saying though? went straight into Jewish conspiracies.

    That's the state of the left wing these days - the new anti-semites of Europe. A loathsome bunch and no mistake.


    (Original post by looseseal)
    Do you have problems with grasping basic reading comprehension? I asked whether it had decreased rather than it ceasing entirely.
    Well for the most part the rocket attacks have reduced by around 40%-60% as a daily average. There have been around 3 spikes I think. One of which was yesterday when 80-ish were fired into Israel - although that's still down from the 120+ before the ground offensive.
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    (Original post by Ggmu!)
    In this regard I agree with you. They are extremely hypocritical and give any reason they can to not do something about Syria and ISIS.

    However Israel's collective punishment of Palestinians for the actions of their terrorist government is, deplorable to say the least.

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    Not just ISIS or Syria, basically any global conflict.

    Look at how no one gives a hoot about Turkish settlements in Cyprus. I met a woman once who was physically removed from her home in Northern Cyprus, now lives in the UK and there's a Turkish family living in her actual home.

    No one cares. When has the left wing mentioned anything about Turkish settlements? any boycott movements? in fact the left are keen to get Turkey into the EU.

    Israelis know what the reason is for the double standard. It's fairly obvious.

    As for "collective punishment" - Gazans voted for Hamas.

    If the British citizens voted for an internationally proscribed terrorist group which was founded on the principle of carrying out genocide and perpetual conflict against its neighbour - we couldn't then claim innocence when that neighbour hit back against our attacks.
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    (Original post by Pinzgauer)
    Not just ISIS or Syria, basically any global conflict.

    Look at how no one gives a hoot about Turkish settlements in Cyprus. I met a woman once who was physically removed from her home in Northern Cyprus, now lives in the UK and there's a Turkish family living in her actual home.

    No one cares. When has the left wing mentioned anything about Turkish settlements? any boycott movements? in fact the left are keen to get Turkey into the EU.

    Israelis know what the reason is for the double standard. It's fairly obvious.

    As for "collective punishment" - Gazans voted for Hamas.

    If the British citizens voted for an internationally proscribed terrorist group which was founded on the principle of carrying out genocide and perpetual conflict against its neighbour - we couldn't then claim innocence when that neighbour hit back against our attacks.
    I completely agree, I've said myself many times the hurrah is caused by the fact it's the 'smelly jews' (I'm not saying Jews are smelly it's a form of caricature, so please don't card me moderators) who are killing Palestinians. What I find interesting is how nobody actually seems to care about the Palestinian people enough other than to use them as a pawn for Islamists agendas and the lefty anti western agenda.

    People often don't know what's best for them, I don't think Palestinians knew what was best for them - how could they? They've lived a very rough existence next to a nice and prosperous state. Despite what you may say, most people there are ordinary human beings and like any person strive for a safe place to live where they can raise their kids. Their leadership will never provide it, because that's not their aim. Not to mention that repeatedly killing women and children will create more terrorists hell bent on destroying Israel.

    You can't compare the UK Population to Palestinian lol. Apples and oranges.

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    (Original post by Pinzgauer)
    Did you hear what she was saying though? went straight into Jewish conspiracies.

    That's the state of the left wing these days - the new anti-semites of Europe. A loathsome bunch and no mistake.


    Yep, she talked about the illuminati amidst her yells of 'Shame on You', among other, equally laughable conspiracies.



    Well for the most part the rocket attacks have reduced by around 40%-60% as a daily average. There have been around 3 spikes I think. One of which was yesterday when 80-ish were fired into Israel - although that's still down from the 120+ before the ground offensive.
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    (Original post by Ggmu!)
    In this regard I agree with you. They are extremely hypocritical and give any reason they can to not do something about Syria and ISIS.

    However Israel's collective punishment of Palestinians for the actions of their terrorist government is, deplorable to say the least.

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    Why don't you do something about the 100,000 Kashmiris mass murdered by Indian army gandus instead of chatting **** on here?

    "They are extremely hypocritical" hahaha the irony
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    (Original post by Pinzgauer)
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    Is that better or worse than this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lj3nbhj9TU
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    (Original post by Inzamam99)
    Why don't you do something about the 100,000 Kashmiris mass murdered by Indian army gandus instead of chatting **** on here?

    "They are extremely hypocritical" hahaha the irony
    As soon as they let the Kashmiri Pandits re-settle peacefully and as soon as they stop waving ISIS flags and as soon as Pakistan stop sending their ISIS sponsored militias and as soon as Pakistan stop violating the ceasefire

    I'm not bringing up the hundreds of people killed in KPK (more than in Gaza until recently 'operations prophets sword' LOL), the Balochi leader murdered not along ago. Must feel lame knowing a majority of the country doesn't even want to be Pakistan lol.

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