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    Very good article

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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    How's everyone doing today??

    *Happy hour has now commenced for a few hours - free beer and vodka!*
    In the same glass?

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    (Original post by Aph)
    Again capitalist ideas on socialist principles.

    They have similarities and as long as we are talking in broad terms.

    Socialism hasn't been proven impossible. Capitalism doesn't work.
    If capitalism doesn't work then why is capitalism working? Oh, btw, capitalism hasn't been tried properly.

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    (Original post by mobbsy91)
    How's everyone doing today??

    *Happy hour has now commenced for a few hours - free beer and vodka!*
    I'll take all the beerz and vodkaz

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    (Original post by jammy duel)
    if capitalism doesn't work then why is capitalism working? Oh, btw, capitalism hasn't been tried properly.

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    it isn't... Its leading to civil unrest and high wage inequality...
    Also i find capitalism to be self contradictory.
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    In the same glass?

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    Yup
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    I'll take all the beerz and vodkaz

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    Good!
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    (Original post by Aph)
    it isn't... Its leading to civil unrest and high wage inequality...
    Also i find capitalism to be self contradictory.
    The successes of capitalism can be seen in the colossal size of productive forces, the improving quality of human life, and the continued development process of states, however, the same same cannot be said for cases of socialism where there has always been failure, or results terrible enough the state has changed to be a free-market economy.
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    Would we have the internet under Socialism? I think not.
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    There are plenty of examples of socialism working economically. The problem is that it is too often put in the hands of power hungry dictators who have very little regard for democracy and abuse peoples human rights.
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    (Original post by meenu89)
    Would we have the internet under Socialism? I think not.
    More people would have internet certainly, as funding would be redistributed so everyone had access to it.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    The successes of capitalism can be seen in the colossal size of productive forces, the improving quality of human life, and the continued development process of states, however, the same same cannot be said for cases of socialism where there has always been failure, or results terrible enough the state has changed to be a free-market economy.
    Except that inequality has grown, power has been concentrated in a tiny minority of people and the quality of life for people can be assured under socialism too when it is applied correctly.
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    The problem with the 'socialism has failed' argument is that the sample size is tiny, and the vast majority of instances of capitalism have failed too, according to any reasonable metric.
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    Official results yet to be announced but BBC and the independent reporting that Van der bellen (Green party) has narrowly beaten far right Hofer in austrian election now that postal votes have been counted, hofer appears to have conceded defeat on facebook. Well thats a relief, literally only a few thousand votes in it from the sound of things.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Except that inequality has grown, power has been concentrated in a tiny minority of people and the quality of life for people can be assured under socialism too when it is applied correctly.
    So it failed because it didn't achieve the outcome you believe socialism would

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    Official results yet to be announced but BBC and the independent reporting that Van der bellen (Green party) has narrowly beaten far right Hofer in austrian election now that postal votes have been counted, hofer appears to have conceded defeat on facebook. Well thats a relief, literally only a few thousand votes in it from the sound of things.
    Which means a return to complacency for the opponents of the far right

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    So it failed because it didn't achieve the outcome you believe socialism would

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    And that capitalism, or at least capitalists, is/are self contradictory.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    And that capitalism, or at least capitalists, is/are self contradictory.
    In what way? I'd this add gain based on your own assumptions?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    In what way? I'd this add gain based on your own assumptions?

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    Capitalism states that if you work hard you get rewarded and you are also rewarded for having good skills. But there is an element of luck to success which instantly damages capitalism.
    Also by definition you shouldn't get hand outs and help in capitalism so you should be removed from your parents at birth and have a 100% inheritance tax because otherwise people don't get where they are by hard work (note this removes some of the luck variables but adds some too), but in doing so you then require a large state which is uncapitalistic thus capitalism is a paradox.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    The problem with the 'socialism has failed' argument is that the sample size is tiny, and the vast majority of instances of capitalism have failed too, according to any reasonable metric.
    Sometimes you remind me so much of a former poster called Adorno.
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    (Original post by meenu89)
    Sometimes you remind me so much of a former poster called Adorno.
    Why? Was he consistently bang on the money too?
 
 
 
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