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    (Original post by Birkenhead)
    One question: why? You don't give any clear explanations for why the emboldened are necessary.
    a) Because otherwise you end up with the power distribution we have at the moment. Feminism has managed to brand itself as a movement for gender equality, and in doing so has been actively harmful to men (as before, see domestic violence). Of course, this can be solved with a single movement for equality (which feminism claims to be) or with different movements for different groups, but it is why the current arrangement is broken.

    b) Because why not? Like, nobody is saying that you cannot care about everything, so what is the harm in just defining things in a slightly less general sense and then identifying as more things.

    c) Because people need spaces to speak. A lot of discourse between MRAs and feminists is not great, and is certainly not productive. We may have the same end goals, but there are very different approaches, and the ability to tackle an issue with like minded people productively as opposed to just ending up arguing is kind of useful.
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    (Original post by crozibear96)
    Yes. I would consider myself a feminist if it wasn't called something which sounds so against what it actually is (if that makes sense). I prefer to call myself a supporter of gender equality. To me, a "feminist" is someone like a radfem and supports female supremacy rather than gender equality.

    ^ This is pretty much how I feel, though for the record whenever I express that to a 'feminist' I get told I'm just an ignorant male. Which funnily enough proves it to be true.


    Egalitarianism ftw. :woo:
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    You are a misogynist. :mad:
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    (Original post by SocialJustice)
    You are a misogynist. :mad:
    Nah he's right. Feminism is a completely confused movement.

    "Let's focus on making women equal to men, and lets pretend then men have perfect lives. Also we want to keep the positive aspects of sexism e.g. you still can't hit a girl"

    Most modern countries have no need for feminism.
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    (Original post by SocialJustice)
    You are a misogynist. :mad:
    what is a misogynist?
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    (Original post by geoking)
    Nah he's right. Feminism is a completely confused movement.

    "Let's focus on making women equal to men, and lets pretend then men have perfect lives. Also we want to keep the positive aspects of sexism e.g. you still can't hit a girl"

    Most modern countries have no need for feminism.
    Are you not woried you are coming off as a little bit racialist??? :confused:
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    (Original post by Youis Trollin)
    Are you not woried you are coming off as a little bit racialist??? :confused:
    In what way?
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    (Original post by geoking)
    In what way?
    it is racialist to offend minorities women are an oppressed minority with less thar 49% of world woman?
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    (Original post by Youis Trollin)
    it is racialist to offend minorities women are an oppressed minority with less thar 49% of world woman?
    You need to pick up a dictionary because you're using words you don't understand.
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    Maybe The feminists that are for equality should approach the problem under a new name. separate yourself from the feminists that believe that women are Superior. and I wouldn't call it something that is associated with a gender either.
    People that believe in any sort of gender superiority are ignored by most anyway XD
    Anyone agree?
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    (Original post by geoking)
    You need to pick up a dictionary because you're using words you don't understand.
    racialist- to offend a minority of people
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    (Original post by Youis Trollin)
    racialist- to offend a minority of people
    Women aren't a minority :rolleyes:

    Either way, I don't care. I stand by what I said.
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    (Original post by SocialJustice)
    You are a misogynist. :mad:
    Lol. No. I'm such a philogynist. I do like pretty girls.

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    (Original post by Samoknight)
    Maybe The feminists that are for equality should approach the problem under a new name. separate yourself from the feminists that believe that women are Superior. and I wouldn't call it something that is associated with a gender either.
    People that believe in any sort of gender superiority are ignored by most anyway XD
    Anyone agree?
    Tbh, I don't see how Female Supremacists can even convince themselves that women are intrinsically superior to men.

    Boggles my mind.
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    (Original post by geoking)
    Nah he's right. Feminism is a completely confused movement.

    "Let's focus on making women equal to men, and lets pretend then men have perfect lives. Also we want to keep the positive aspects of sexism e.g. you still can't hit a girl"

    Most modern countries have no need for feminism.
    No one ever said that men have perfect lives, but there are some problems that pretty much just impact women and it's a positive thing to try to help ameliorate those problems, even if they are ones that do not impact your own life, just like there are problems that pretty much just impact gay people or racial minorities. No one says that black people should include white people when they talk about issues of racism, or gay people should include straight people when they talk about homophobia.

    Women do do fairly well in the West, but it is obviously always a good thing to get rape statistics down, fight child sex trafficking, and the like, in addition to trying to improve daily lived experience for women and support equality in the professional sphere. Outside of the West, women have it much, much harder and, if that's where you feel attention should focus, then do something about women's issues there -- Give money to a charity that supports girls' education in poor parts of Africa, volunteer to teach there, or whatever you can think of to help. No point in just complaining. Action is where it's at.
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    (Original post by SocialJustice)
    You are a misogynist. :mad:
    A woman's place is in the kitchen.
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    A woman's place is in the kitchen.
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    (Original post by Viceroy)
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    You are one of those white knight vermin. It is evident that your parents raised the afterbirth rather than the baby and it is a shame that your father's condom broke.
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    Feminism, as it actually is, not as it purports to be or how we might want it to be, promotes a direct attack of the rights and civil liberties of men, boys, and even women too.

    When one is informed of this fact and has both the intellect, and the inclination (several intelligent people are still feminists; it just goes to show rational people can hold irrational beliefs) to form an anti-feminist opinion, it is hard for a rhetoric directly attacking that person to be persuasive to that person.
 
 
 
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