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    (Original post by koolgurl14)
    Just like you said the creator could be anyone or anything and for today we all have the right to choose whoever it is wether you want it to be god jesus allah big bang.
    Two paths

    Religion=Delusion

    Darwinism=Partial Truths

    Darwinism is very basic and doesnt contain much room for theoretical changes. If you are basing you evolution purely on Darwinism, you need to do some more research on evolution
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    (Original post by koolgurl14)
    Why what ... it just makes life easier, just search theistic evolution.
    I know what it is but I'm not really interested in making life easier. I like it non-trivial.
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    (Original post by m.al-hussain)
    the Quran has proved itself to be true many times using science.
    This silly specious claim has been destroyed so many times that it has become a tedious subject for discussion.
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    (Original post by leavingthecity)
    I know what it is but I'm not really interested in making life easier. I like it non-trivial.
    That's weird way of wanting to live your short life especially considering that you only have this one short life
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    (Original post by TheOpinion)
    Two paths

    Religion=Delusion

    Darwinism=Partial Truths

    Darwinism is very basic and doesnt contain much room for theoretical changes. If you are basing you evolution purely on Darwinism, you need to do some more research on evolution
    Don't worry I have done loads of research as I am planning to be a geneticist.
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    (Original post by koolgurl14)
    That's weird way of wanting to live your short life especially considering that you only have this one short life
    Not at all, I couldn't possibly absorb/ discover for myself all there is to know about the world around me in all it's richness in one lifetime. It's a challenge, a pleasure, a luxury to learn and research and achieve a greater level of knowledge, whether it's a personal past time, an activity you do with your family, or a full time job. You could even use the knowledge to benefit those around you, for example, using a knowledge of nuclear physics to develop diagnostic tools for detecting cancer. Sometimes I just go outside and watch the night sky and take in it's beauty magnified by my knowledge of it's non trivial nature, and consider it an hour of my life very much enjoyed and well spent.

    Ignorance isn't bliss, they just say that.
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    (Original post by koolgurl14)
    Don't worry I have done loads of research as I am planning to be a geneticist.
    Then surely you would know that darwinism is simply a basis for evolution theory?
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    (Original post by m.al-hussain)
    I cannot account for all religious books, however the Quran has proved itself to be true many times using science.
    It mentioned that the world was round (similar to an egg shape) 1400 years ago.
    It also describe the process of birth. There was no way of retrieving this information back then.
    also big bang theory was described in Qur'an
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    (Original post by MevMev)
    also big bang theory was described in Qur'an
    No it wasn't. The Big Bang Theory did not exist until the twentieth century.
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    Try out the kalam cosmological argument and the Copenhagen interpretation... you'd have to have some sort of quantum physics knowledge but you can find pop science videos on the web that make it easier if physics isn't your field.

    They both give grounds for there possibly being a god because the universe would have to have an observer at the beginning of time (a god) due to there being the idea that something cannot exist without being measured or observed in a sense. The Copenhagen argument is literally the only thing that keeps me agnostic and not a fully blown out atheist.

    I think religion is a load of irrational speculation but the idea of a god isn't because science says that they're could be one but it can also prove that there isn't one. But we can never know because we will never see inside the box.
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    (Original post by AmazingArry)
    Try out the kalam cosmological argument
    Exploded. Many times. It is nonsense. The first premise falls down under quantum theory.
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    You cannot scientifically prove an omnipotent being since science itself was invented
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    Exploded. Many times. It is nonsense. The first premise falls down under quantum theory.
    I know but they don't know that.... shhhh... let them be oblivious to the truth because it's not as if religion doesn't do that either

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    There is no physical evidence for the existence of God, it is a faith. However there are some pieces of logical reasoning that we could make to help justify his existence.

    1.) Even though it's been generally accepted that the big bang was what happened. We will probably never know what actually caused the big bang to take place in the first place. Therefore, by reason of uncertainty, there is still the possibility that God could have caused it.

    2.) How is it that particles such as electrons and atoms, that are so random, yet ultimately produced humans that are capable of complex reasoning and thought? Are we ultimately just complicated chemical machines.

    3.) Why do we ask questions in the first place? What is the point of thought? Is it simply to give evolutionary advantage or is there something more behind it?

    4.) Even with our relatively high intelligence, are we capable of understanding everything through logical reasoning and deduction?
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    (Original post by AmazingArry)
    I know but they don't know that.... shhhh... let them be oblivious to the truth because it's not as if religion doesn't do that either

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    How can you agree with him when you just mentioned one possible interpretation of quantum mechanics, especially when there are many that are deterministic, which would make his point invalid?

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    (Original post by GeologyMaths)
    You cannot scientifically prove an omnipotent being since science itself was invented
    Science is observation of real phenomena, not something that was just 'invented'.
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    (Original post by leavingthecity)
    Science is observation of real phenomena, not something that was just 'invented'.
    Science is a human invented phenomena
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    (Original post by champ_mc99)
    Not exactly proof but the causation argument? Everyone agrees that the universe had a beginning. Non religious people believe this was due to the big bang. The cause of the big bang can be thought of as the action of an omnipotent eternal being i.e. God
    Most religious people accept that the Universe was caused by the big bang too. In fact, it was a catholic priest called Lemaître that first put forward the theory.

    I don't think that there's any reason to thing of the big bang as the action of an omnipotent eternal being though.
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    (Original post by GeologyMaths)
    Science is a human invented phenomena
    It is not a phenomenon at all; it is a particular process and a method of analysing things.
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    (Original post by mangala)
    the only reason i can think of for the existence is god is that aguero stays playin for city, why else would he stay if god wasnt working his magic? science cant disprove that
    Yes it is by God he continues playing for City
 
 
 
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