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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    {playing devil's advocate}

    You could easily switch this out with 'black' and it would be the same...

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    In theory, yes. I read the article and he made some pretty shady comments about people who happen to be black and from working class backgrounds.

    Still, doesn't change the fact that many bankers are indeed white and there is still stigma around the idea of successful black people applying for higher ranked jobs.
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    (Original post by pizzaprincess)
    Except this is discussing intelligence, not disease. Did you read the article?
    Yet ibwas talking about eugenics. Inteligence has a genetic component, meaning eugenics is not defunct.
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    (Original post by Farm_Ecology)
    Yet ibwas talking about eugenics. Inteligence has a genetic component, meaning eugenics is not defunct.
    A quick flick through articles from the past 20 years brings me to the conclusion that eugenics is not exactly favoured by people within or without the scientific community.
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    (Original post by Dnkz7)
    In theory, yes. I read the article and he made some pretty shady comments about people who happen to be black and from working class backgrounds.

    Still, doesn't change the fact that many bankers are indeed white and there is still stigma around the idea of successful black people applying for higher ranked jobs.
    That's why as black people we need to do everything we can to eradicate the negative stereotypes associated with us! Speaking like Ali G won't get a black person a job in the worlds of medicine, law, banking etc as it reinforces the inaccurate and untrue stereotype that black people are unintelligent!
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    (Original post by J_M321)
    That's why as black people we need to do everything we can to eradicate the negative stereotypes associated with us! Speaking like Ali G won't get a black person a job in the worlds of medicine, law, banking etc as it reinforces the inaccurate and untrue stereotype that black people are unintelligent!
    So true man, never a truer word said.
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    (Original post by 0to100)
    Wait...you mean you don't have to be clever to get into banking?! Did i pick the wrong career...or is this academic snobbery I'm smelling?
    Banking is the new rage eh? All the physicists and engineers are flocking into Wall Street LOL
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    This is no more racist than when other races do not mix. You have seen it aroung Canary Wharf and Liverpool Street right? Its full of white men its just the culture.
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    (Original post by BodhiUtah)
    So I was tweeted this on Twitter and had a read and don't know what to think to be honest? I agree with a lot of it but it seems well out of order. Here's an extract of the funnish bit but check it out: http://www.citysharks.co.uk/2016/05/...le-in-banking/

    Would you personally hire a black person?Possible, if they could do the job, but as soon as I hear any ghetto like language their gone. That’s why education is paramount as it irons out the poor character traits and polishes a person for a potential career in investment banking.I understand totally but most black people come from deprived backgrounds?I don’t buy into that crap you can make it wherever you’re from. If you want to kill your brain cells by listing to Beyonce and Jay Z and walk around with a knife then your damaging your own chances in life. Plenty of black people life like civilized human being’s, it’s just that black people choose to live less so. Just walk around London and your see it’s mainly always the black people that need to be avoided. Just look at the prisons, black males are just a criminal and lazy men on average.
    I'm not sure whether to be surprised at the amount of vitriol or the self-important attitude of someone who's only contribution to the world is pushing money around. If I know of anyone falling for the investment banking trap I'll be sure to show them this.
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    (Original post by TrueDetective01)
    Shouldn't this serve as motivation for blacks to prove this banker otherwise? As usual, people on here are getting emotional for no reason
    Standard sofa knee-jerk reactions :yep:
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    A Harvard student studied and proved this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Richwine but others disagree




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    The idea that some racial groups are, on average, smarter than others is without a doubt among the most discussed (and debunked) “taboos” in American intellectual history. It is an argument that has been advanced since the days of slavery, one that helped push through the draconian Immigration Act of 1924, and one that set off a scientific firestorm in the late 60s that’s hardly flagged since.Yet every time the race and IQ hypothesis reclaims the public spotlight, we are caught slackjaw, always returning to the same basic debates on the same basic concepts.
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    A Harvard PHD student claims ti have proved the link berween intelligence and race it caused uproar https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason
    _Richwine

    Jason Matthew Richwine is a conservative public-policy analyst[2] and commentator[3] best known for his controversial views on immigration andIQ. In 2013, while working for theHeritage Foundation he co-authored a controversial report released by the Foundation on the economic costs ofillegal immigration to the United Stateswhich concluded that passing theBorder Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 would cost taxpayers more than $6 trillion.[4] The controversy surrounding the report included many allegations of racism and mathematical inaccuracy, and ultimately led to his resignation.
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    (Original post by xylas)
    Yes its well known he supported socialism not communism. I won't argue with you over why there were more opportunities in capitalist america, but suffice to say that we agree on what makes one successful, luck playing a large part.
    Socialism and communism are often sadly confused. Einstein obviously did not support communism, but he was indeed a socialist.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Socialism and communism are often sadly confused. Einstein obviously did not support communism, but he was indeed a socialist.
    That's what I said
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    (Original post by xylas)
    That's what I said
    Lol sorry, I think I confused his post for yours
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    Sorry to resuscitate an old thread, but, I wanted to provide the people arguing in this thread with some hard data; please review the references to help you understand the state of race, ethnicity, and education in the UK:


    1) First of all, Black Africans are among the most credentialed in the UK (university-level):
    http://www.ethnicity.ac.uk/medialibr...n-changing.pdf

    2) Black Africans are almost exactly represented at Russell Group universities according to their proportion of the British population
    https://62e528761d0685343e1c-f3d1b99...1396964830.jpg

    3) For young elite* British people:
    It should be noted that "Once educational characteristics are taken into account, most ethnic minority groups have a higher likelihood of being unemployed than their White peers."

    but looking at raw data:

    "Some groups, such as Indians and Black Africans, manage to have higher earnings than their White peers"

    and

    "The results from these models show that employed graduates in the Indian and Black African groups do better than their White peers. However, female Bangladeshi graduates have lower earnings than their White peers. In most instances, male graduates’ earnings compared to their White peers were higher than females’, especially for Indian graduates."
    http://www.runnymedetrust.org/upload...IsntEnough.pdf
    * elite - those educated at Russell Group unis

    and 4) Black African children perform on par with white British children at the GCSEs
    https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...Text_FINAL.pdf [page 10]

    The data suggest a factor of ethnicity/culture, not race or skin colour, is playing a part in differential outcomes among British youths. This can be reasonably inferred, as Black Caribbean children do not show similar performance for items 1 to 4. We could lazily blame culture, or we could consider that time-of-arrival in the UK/social class in native country may play a role in employment/educational outcomes in British immigrant communities, but that would require much more advanced statistical data analysis, and less alarmist newspaper headlines - and who wants that?

    Sincerely,
    coutingdown,
    STEM Ph.D.
 
 
 
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