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    (Original post by fallen_acorns)

    Honestly, for me - you need to stick with him for 3-4 seasons. Forget sacking the boss if you dont get top4 for a year.. just let a decent manager (which you have) see through a proper settling and transitional period..
    I dont understand this attitiude at all. Managers should have an automatic right to be in charge, if they cant perform, tough ****, get lost. Thats not to say that managers should be sacked after any bad result but you bave to deliver on the obkectives set for you, just like any other employee.

    We are what, 5 months into Mourinho's stewardship and what progress has been made? None. Does it look like progress is coming? No. Why should he keep his job if he cant do what was asked of him?

    Compare that to Pep at City, Conte at Chelsea and Klopp's start at Liverpool. At all three clubs there have been teething problems but they have always looked like they are going somewhere, like the manager has a plan beyond scrapping a result each weekend. The players on the pitch look like they are learning and improving. The total opposite is true of Mouronho's United.

    Is sacking Mourinho going to solve all the clubs problems, of course not, is keeping him in the job when he looks incapable of fulfilling going to help, definitely not. There are big systemic issues with how United is being run and until that changes the club is condemning itself tp decades of irrelevance.
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    Its amazing how many fans have turned against Smalling after a bad performance. He was immense last season and deserves to start especially as now Bailey is out.

    In the PL now we have games against so called "lesser teams", the only hard games are Arsenal and Spurs at Home and possibly Everton. So if we get our act together and win against the lesser teams we will have 23 more points, with anything in the hard games counting as a bonus. Then we'd have 37 points which is Top 4 standard depending on how other teams perform. I'm not saying we will win all those games but am saying that a good run of form renders results like yesterday meaningless.
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    (Original post by Diego Costa)
    There are plenty of young managers out there who have actually got experience, all Giggs has done is sit and watch a manager fail.



    Where? He can't force a move in Summer with two years left and there aren't a lot of top clubs in the market for a 'keeper/
    Was referring to the fact that he's one of the best keepers in the world but for multiple seasons he's been been carrying a team full of passengers who are more concerned with the pay check.
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    love that city are on a 5 game streak without a win, equalling peps worst ever streak.. and yet your such good neighbors that youd take the heat off them by being an even bigger **** show
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    Was referring to the fact that he's one of the best keepers in the world but for multiple seasons he's been been carrying a team full of passengers who are more concerned with the pay check.
    You said he was definitely going, Based on the previous performance De Gea deserves some flak for the first goal too.
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    (Original post by Diego Costa)
    You said he was definitely going, Based on the previous performance De Gea deserves some flak for the first goal too.
    Yeah RK's just gunna RK I guess, he posts to get a reaction rather than trying to make sense
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    (Original post by Diego Costa)
    You said he was definitely going, Based on the previous performance De Gea deserves some flak for the first goal too.
    I think we can get a few mistakes slide for 3 unbelievable seasons.

    Do see him leaving for Madrid, especially if we don't get top 4.

    Edit: Stick to Youtube videos pal.
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    I think we can get a few mistakes slide for 3 seasons of GOATness.

    Do see him leaving for Madrid, especially if we don't get top 4.
    Given the timing it seemed you were basing it on this performance, during which he was also poor.

    The earliest De Gea could leave for Madrid is January 2018 and it's not unfeasible Man Utd improve in the half season between then and not getting top four. Mourinho sides always have outstanding second seasons.

    Also, Keylor Navas has been Real's best player in the previous two seasons and Zidane wisely decided to back him last Summer which is why he didn't move there and De Gea was suddenly happy to stay at Man Utd.
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    (Original post by Diego Costa)
    Given the timing it seemed you were basing it on this performance, during which he was also poor.

    The earliest De Gea could leave for Madrid is January 2018 and it's not unfeasible Man Utd improve in the half season between then and not getting top four. Mourinho sides always have outstanding second seasons.

    Also, Keylor Navas has been Real's best player in the previous two seasons and Zidane wisely decided to back him last Summer which is why he didn't move there and De Gea was suddenly happy to stay at Man Utd.
    Top 4 looks like it will be the closest ever given how fair few teams have done well.

    Thats never stopped Madrid from going for a Galactico.
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    I think we can get a few mistakes slide for 3 unbelievable seasons.

    Do see him leaving for Madrid, especially if we don't get top 4.

    3rd time lucky?
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    (Original post by SirAlexFerguson)
    Its amazing how many fans have turned against Smalling after a bad performance. He was immense last season and deserves to start especially as now Bailey is out.

    In the PL now we have games against so called "lesser teams", the only hard games are Arsenal and Spurs at Home and possibly Everton. So if we get our act together and win against the lesser teams we will have 23 more points, with anything in the hard games counting as a bonus. Then we'd have 37 points which is Top 4 standard depending on how other teams perform. I'm not saying we will win all those games but am saying that a good run of form renders results like yesterday meaningless.
    I've never liked Smalling. Maybe it's his voice. There I said it.

    (Original post by Dirtybit)
    3rd time lucky?
    I think its time to cut our losses with Pogba, and sell him in January to whichever Prem club will take him and hope we can recoup circa £25m. Thoughts
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    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    I've never liked Smalling. Maybe it's his voice. There I said it.


    I think its time to cut our losses with Pogba, and sell him in January to whichever Prem club will take him and hope we can recoup circa £25m. Thoughts
    But Pogba's a top CM.

    Madrid are idiots for not splashing the cash on him.
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    But Pogba's a top CM.

    Madrid are idiots for not splashing the cash on him.
    Perez will never spend big money on a black player. The man is racist.

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    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    I think its time to cut our losses with Pogba, and sell him in January to whichever Prem club will take him and hope we can recoup circa £25m. Thoughts
    Imagine thinking any other PL club would spend £25m on a midfielder who legit has less influence on a game than Charlie Adam.
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    (Original post by swirly)
    Imagine thinking any other PL club would spend £25m on a midfielder who legit has less influence on a game than Charlie Adam.
    Charlie Adam's left foot alone is worth £25m tbf
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    (Original post by Kenan and Kel)
    I've never liked Smalling. Maybe it's his voice. There I said it.


    I think its time to cut our losses with Pogba, and sell him in January to whichever Prem club will take him and hope we can recoup circa £25m. Thoughts
    Imagine thinking this Pogba slander will get to me, Jesus Christ I'm not his dad :rofl:
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    Lets be honest though, Smalling was never good. He had a good season but he will never be a United standard player.

    Form is temporary, class is forever.
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    (Original post by Dirtybit)
    Imagine thinking this Pogba slander will get to me, Jesus Christ I'm not his dad :rofl:
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    What about this team.
    De Gea
    Valencia Bailly Blind Shaw
    Herrera Carrick
    Mkhitaryan Pogba
    Rashford Ibra
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    I know it's formatting but the thought of Shaw doing a Gandalf down the right side made me laugh
 
 
 
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