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    who?
    Nevermind.
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    (Original post by IdeasForLife)
    Nevermind.
    lol alright Salaam
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    (Original post by AbdulALI)
    Today marks the fifth anniversary of the assassination of Muammer Gadaffi, very sad!
    SubhanAllah time flies
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    (Original post by h333)
    SubhanAllah time flies
    Indeed.
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    (Original post by AbdulALI)
    Today marks the fifth anniversary of the assassination of Muammer Gadaffi, very sad!
    Not a fan of Gedaffi, but Libiya is in a terrible state currently.

    In the words of Owen Jones [an atheist afaik]: "Today's Libya is overrun by militias and faces a deteriorating human rights situation, mounting chaos that is infecting other countries, growing internal splits, and even the threat of civil war"

    Gaurdian article [from the UK]: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...terventionists

    God helps us what will happen if Hillary Clinton is elected president. We saw what she did in Libiya. Whatever she intends for other countries in the Middle East, i'm going to probably oppose her in.

    "We came, we saw, he died"

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    Not a fan of Gedaffi, but Libiya is in a terrible state currently.In the words of Owen Jones [an atheist afaik]: "Today's Libya is overrun by militias and faces a deteriorating human rights situation, mounting chaos that is infecting other countries, growing internal splits, and even the threat of civil war"Gaurdian article [from the UK]: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...terventionists
    Most Shia's I know hate him because of the disappearance of Shi'ite cleric Musa Al Sadr

    Indeed, the Muslims will suffer greatly with Clinton in the White House
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    Most Shia's I know hate him because of the disappearance of Shi'ite cleric Musa Al Sadr
    Tbh, i dislike him because of his brutality in general. But if it was between him and the jihadi groups that have now infested Libiya and turned it into a jihadi wonderland, it would sadly, have to be him, even if he did do what you mentioned as well.

    Lets just put it this way, my libiyan friend [who moved away decades ago], would be dead right now if he were in Libiya.

    But let's not talk about this further. I feel as though [some] people will try to quote me and incite a debate that goes off on a random tangent.

    Suffice to say, watch it when Hillary Clinton becomes president. Her biggest priority will be bringing peace, humanity, and justice to the oppressed muslimeen in war-torn countries, rather than a calculated manipulative geopolitical agenda for her own special interests.
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    (Original post by Tawheed)
    Not a fan of Gedaffi, but Libiya is in a terrible state currently.

    In the words of Owen Jones [an atheist afaik]: "Today's Libya is overrun by militias and faces a deteriorating human rights situation, mounting chaos that is infecting other countries, growing internal splits, and even the threat of civil war"

    Gaurdian article [from the UK]: https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...terventionists

    God helps us what will happen if Hillary Clinton is elected president. We saw what she did in Libiya. Whatever she intends for other countries in the Middle East, i'm going to probably oppose her in.

    "We came, we saw, he died"

    She sounds sooo scary
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    She sounds sooo scary
    She is about to become the president of the USA soon, if predictions are true.

    Keep a close eye on her plans for Syria.
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    (Original post by Tawheed)
    Tbh, i dislike him because of his brutality in general. But if it was between him and the jihadi groups that have now infested Libiya and turned it into a jihadi wonderland, it would sadly, have to be him, even if he did do what you mentioned as well.Lets just put it this way, my libiyan friend [who moved away decades ago], would be dead right now if he were in Libiya.But let's not talk about this further. I feel as though [some] people will try to quote me and incite a debate that goes off on a random tangent.Suffice to say, watch it when Hillary Clinton becomes president. Her biggest priority will be bringing peace, humanity, and justice to the oppressed muslimeen in war-torn countries, rather than a calculated manipulative geopolitical agenda for her own special interests.
    some may claim he was brutal, but I've been sceptical of the western and Gulf Arab news agency's coverage of the events in Libya from the beginning...
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    (Original post by AbdulALI)
    Indeed.
    There was this Libyan guy who was my bro's friend and he hated Gadaffi...and he does not care about the state it is now, he is just happy he is not there anymore
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    She sounds sooo scary
    trust me she is the devil! she's going to be worse than Bush and Obama combined.
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    There was this Libyan guy who was my bro's friend and he hated Gadaffi...and he does not care about the state it is now, he is just happy he is not there anymore
    he hated Gaddafi because of the image the western and gulf Arab news agency's painted of him. on July 1st 2011 millions of Libyans went out to the streets to show support for their leader, it got zero coverage from said news outlets, obviously it was against their agenda of regime change.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bWsTlG7K60
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    (Original post by AbdulALI)
    trust me she is the devil! she's going to be worse than Bush and Obama combined.
    (Original post by Tawheed)
    She is about to become the president of the USA soon, if predictions are true.

    Keep a close eye on her plans for Syria.
    Why can't someone like Ron Paul (if I got his name right) be the president Idk much about him but he seems good.

    Idk tbh I feel only the worse become leaders nowadays because of wealth.
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    Why can't someone like Ron Paul (if I got his name right) be the president Idk much about him but he seems good.Idk tbh I feel only the worse become leaders nowadays because of wealth.
    I'm no conspiracy theorist but the 'political establishment' wouldn't allow it, and all they have to do is not give the candidate media coverage/air time for him to reach out to the ballot.
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    (Original post by AbdulALI)
    he hated Gaddafi because of the image the western and gulf Arab news agency's painted of him. on July 1st 2011 millions of Libyans went out to the streets to show support for their leader, it got zero coverage from said news outlets, obviously it was against their agenda of regime change.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bWsTlG7K60
    Yeah that was interesting. I am against NATO, idk what they have done good, if they have at all. If they didn't have their own interest in this they would have not cared one bit.
    I found this speech of his interesting and gave me the chills:
    https://youtu.be/81Nd6I2WAao

    (Original post by AbdulALI)
    I'm no conspiracy theorist but the 'political establishment' wouldn't allow it, and all they have to do is not give the candidate media coverage/air time for him to reach out to the ballot.
    I agree, I don't think he has the chance unfortunately.
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    Yeah that was interesting. I am against NATO, idk what they have done good, if they have at all. If they didn't have their own interest in this they would have not cared one bit. I found this speech of his interesting and gave me the chills: https://youtu.be/81Nd6I2WAaoI agree, I don't think he has the chance unfortunately.
    Gaddafi was a smart man, he warned the Europeans/NATO what would happen if he were to be toppled (migrant crisis) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SysVdlG6uuo

    May he rest in peace.
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    Why can't someone like Ron Paul (if I got his name right) be the president Idk much about him but he seems good.

    Idk tbh I feel only the worse become leaders nowadays because of wealth.
    (Original post by AbdulALI)
    I'm no conspiracy theorist but the 'political establishment' wouldn't allow it, and all they have to do is not give the candidate media coverage/air time for him to reach out to the ballot.
    Spot on.

    Ron Paul is a much lesser evil than the candidates we have on offer.

    Check out his views on the Middle East.
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