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    (Original post by Another)
    Strange, I just came back from NY - and I swear, everyone is beautiful there. Everyone, regardless of race. There's a huge Japanese community in Toronto too (I know, not America, but still) and I'd see a couple of beauties every day.

    But because of race, people hesitate to date them. Like they're dating down a class or something. Hey ho, more for me.


    I'd like to think that he behaves differently in real life, an instance where he comes online to an internet forum to vent out his most major frustrations under the guise of relative anonymity yet in his day to day routine, he comes across as a normal person

    Is what I'd like to believe.

    It is not about looks in America. It is about race there. Even if you're good looking and ethnic you will get discriminated against. They are much more serious about their ideas of racial hierarchy.
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    (Original post by SloaneRanger)
    Having an indian background is not bad at all, i loved educating this girl im seeing she is romanian and is ignorant. Brain of a pea, scared her with Hitler going after people and gave her the history of where her people are from. Some people just need educating.
    Re your point about Eastern Europeans. Try having an Indian background in the USA and see how far you get lol, much more difficult there. Seen Indians (good looking and otherwise) do well in Europe/UK... but the **** they face in the USA is silly. The USA, imo, is a special exception. Most racist western country imo for ethnic men (apart from blacks) looking to date.
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    (Original post by Nomes89)
    I'm not going to argue with this. There is actually a lot of racism towards Asian men echoing the part in bold. Although generally I'm not attracted to Asian guys, there have been a few I've fancied and recently dated one...my friends were a bit like 'ooh he's Asian ' when I told them where he's from (India) but in actual fact he's very good looking.

    That's an added element Asian guys have to contend with in particular.
    Problem is they act asian eat jalebi and drink milky chai. If i saw someone do that i would have a fight and end up in a police cell. People like that wonder why they can't attract tier 1 white girls by acting like the guru. If they want to act like Mr Khan from Citizen or East is East GL to them. They wonder why they are failing in life.
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    (Original post by fat_hobbit)
    The trouble with the OP, he is not even getting to first base.

    There are steps.

    1) Get number
    2) Go on a date.
    3) Kiss
    4) Sleep with one another
    5) Date.

    Generally that's how it goes in the western society.

    I suspect the OP struggles with step 1.

    He said a lot of insulting things, I agree, but you gotta read between the lines here.

    The guy is insecure, lonely and depressed. This thread was a cry for help from men and women on TSR.
    Yeah, I do feel sorry for guys who can't get girls, and vice versa (they do exist - if you go back to my posts from ~2004/5 you'll see just how angsty and whingey we can be too!) Some girls can be cruel, as can some guys.

    But when it's hidden behind so much hatred and anger, and any girl who replies is insulted, people aren't going to be sympathetic. I could talk about my experiences, of my female friends not being ****s and my male friends who aren't super hot getting girlfriends, but he would either not believe me or would find another way to insult me, probably by playing the race card.

    On that note, FWIW, the hottest guy in my year at med school was mixed race - half-Iranian. He certainly didn't seem to do badly for himself with women.
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    Re your point about Eastern Europeans. Try having an Indian background in the USA and see how far you get lol, much more difficult there. Seen Indians (good looking and otherwise) do well in Europe/UK... but the **** they face in the USA is silly. The USA, imo, is a special exception. Most racist western country imo for ethnic men (apart from blacks) looking to date.
    Yeah see what you mean, im glad im mixed race,lol. I had someone think anything from fillipino,malaysian,indonesian, doesn't bother me. Depends they can't adapt to culture, they are still acting like the samosa king.
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    (Original post by SloaneRanger)
    Problem is they act asian eat jalebi and drink milky chai. If i saw someone do that i would have a fight and end up in a police cell. People like that wonder why they can't attract tier 1 white girls by acting like the guru. If they want to act like Mr Khan from Citizen or East is East GL to them. They wonder why they are failing in life.
    I literally had to laugh out loud to this.

    Harsh but true. That **** is not appealing. The mistake is also going exclusively for British white girls...this attitude is most prevalent amongst them so they stand less of a chance. I'm black and my cousins are half Indian plus like I said I wouldn't rule out dating one either.
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    More *******s than a Hungarian delicacy.
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    (Original post by Helenia)

    First of all, that isn't what the OP wants, he wants to have sex with lots of women. And the fact they don't want to makes THEM the ones with the problem, obviously.

    Secondly, people still had affairs 50 years ago, especially men. And women were the ones who had to settle, particularly as the young male population had been decimated 10 years previously by WW2.

    Thirdly, again, how on earth is shooting people going to make women want to have sex with men?
    Didn't say there weren't affairs. His point was that for a man to get casual sex it is far harder than it is for a female, which is undoubtedly true. Back in the day women still just had to exist and not be an absolute monster to get men(family social standing would come into play though). The point being that a man has to do while a women just has to be.

    I was wrong when i used the word violence, but with so many men statistically out of the loop, allot will adopt a misogynistic attitude. There are only about as many men as women, so when women get older they will have to pick from men that where previously at the bottom of the dating table. Allot of these men will resent women, only want them for sex etc. men's oxytocin release is more physical, they could get by with vr porn and prostitutes, drugs, monetary gain etc. women, who need an emotional attachment to men will become the desperate ones.
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    (Original post by Nomes89)
    I literally had to laugh out loud to this.

    Harsh but true. That **** is not appealing. The mistake is also going exclusively for British white girls...this attitude is most prevalent amongst them so they stand less of a chance. I'm black and my cousins are half Indian plus like I said I wouldn't rule out dating one either.
    Yeah imagine bringing a girl home to that. Thank god my parents are westernise, both have minimal things back to cultural roots. I have warned them quite abruptly if i see any of that
    **** if i bring a tier 1 girl back there will be hell to pay, i will even set it on fire right infront of them. That goes for anything whether it be a mauritian newspaper or any form of culture.
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    (Original post by Another)
    I'd like to think that he behaves differently in real life, an instance where he comes online to an internet forum to vent out his most major frustrations under the guise of relative anonymity yet in his day to day routine, he comes across as a normal person

    Is what I'd like to believe.
    TBH that was a great opportunity for him to get girls on his side on TSR.

    If he played it a bit more diplomatically, he would start getting a lot more interaction from women here.

    Right now, a lot of girls are not posting in this thread because they probably think he is mentally disturbed, isolating him further.

    The first step in getting a girl to like you, is to talk to her.
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    It is not about looks in America. It is about race there. Even if you're good looking and ethnic you will get discriminated against. They are much more serious about their ideas of racial hierarchy.
    Blacks do well to be honest.

    Can't see lebron James having trouble with women.
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    It's odd hearing all this hate towards Asians, my best friend is half-Asian and out of my friendship group he's probably the best with girls.
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    (Original post by SloaneRanger)
    Yeah see what you mean, im glad im mixed race,lol. I had someone think anything from fillipino,malaysian,indonesian, doesn't bother me. Depends they can't adapt to culture, they are still acting like the samosa king.
    Problem with the USA is the racial stereotyping and profiling. That is where their racism comes from, ignorance and arrogance. You will get racially profiled there whether you like it or not. You have not seen racism until you have seen American racism. Obviously it is much better in states like California where the ethnic minority men can do well (blacks don't count, they do well everywhere with women in the USA as the media glorifies them). However, the vast majority of the USA is a wasteland for the ethnic minority male. Very white supremacist, and even minority women subscribe to these views especially. Tough terrain. Go on American forums and you'll feel lucky to be in Britain or for that matter, the vast majority of European countries. Being in America is playing the whole game on "hard mode" for all ethnic minority males.
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    (Original post by fat_hobbit)
    Blacks do well to be honest.

    Can't see lebron James having trouble with women.
    In the USA especially, they are glorified in the media. Whilst every other minority I can think of is given as many negative racial stereotypes as possible in terms of dating.
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    (Original post by Helenia)
    Yeah, I do feel sorry for guys who can't get girls, and vice versa (they do exist - if you go back to my posts from ~2004/5 you'll see just how angsty and whingey we can be too!) Some girls can be cruel, as can some guys.

    But when it's hidden behind so much hatred and anger, and any girl who replies is insulted, people aren't going to be sympathetic. I could talk about my experiences, of my female friends not being ****s and my male friends who aren't super hot getting girlfriends, but he would either not believe me or would find another way to insult me, probably by playing the race card.
    Yeah, well, depression brings out the worse in people.

    I am sure you studied some psychology as a medic. So as you would know, depressed people generally fall into a negative mindset - so even if you are trying to help them, they will take it as an attack if it contradicts their point of view.

    The only person essentially that can help him snap out of it, is ironically the OP.

    On that note, FWIW, the hottest guy in my year at med school was mixed race - half-Iranian. He certainly didn't seem to do badly for himself with women.
    Mixed race people are generally really hot. I think the issue here for the OP is that if you are good looking no matter what race you are , you are desired - which is true IMO. The problem lies when you are average.
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    (Original post by SloaneRanger)
    Yeah imagine bringing a girl home to that. Thank god my parents are westernise, both have minimal things back to cultural roots. I have warned them quite abruptly if i see any of that
    **** if i bring a tier 1 girl back there will be hell to pay, i will even set it on fire right infront of them. That goes for anything whether it be a mauritian newspaper or any form of culture.
    You gotta keep the food though...that stuff is tasty. Just make sure your house/clothes don't reek of it afterwards.
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    (Original post by fat_hobbit)
    Yeah, well, depression brings out the worse in people.

    I am sure you studied some psychology as a medic. So as you would know, depressed people generally fall into a negative mindset - so even if you are trying to help them, they will take it as an attack if it contradicts their point of view.

    The only person essentially that can help him snap out of it, is ironically the OP.



    Mixed race people are generally really hot. I think the issue here for the OP is that if you are good looking no matter what race you are , you are desired - which is true IMO. The problem lies when you are average.
    It's not a problem at all if you have other good traits (humour, confidence, sociable etc.) which are above average and work on the bits which can be changed like body, hair, clothes, scent.
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    (Original post by Nomes89)
    I'm not going to argue with this. There is actually a lot of racism towards Asian men echoing the part in bold. Although generally I'm not attracted to Asian guys, there have been a few I've fancied and recently dated one...my friends were a bit like 'ooh he's Asian ' when I told them where he's from (India) but in actual fact he's very good looking.

    That's an added element Asian guys have to contend with in particular.
    That's where having good mates as an average asian guy helps a lot.

    Take the following scenario (I have been in this one so many times) -

    You meet a girl at a house party, you like her, but you are not her type initially/or she is 50-50.

    Now in a night club environment, what would typically happen, she will find a way to disqualify me quickly. Especially if I am not her type initially. It is even worse in the virtual world, Tinder etc.

    I am a stranger - and the way she will look at it, why should I waste my time with you?

    Now if you are popular, well liked in your social circle, say more so than her.

    This can play in your favour.

    Her friends can be instrumental in helping her from going 50/50 to giving you a shot to chat to her. It is up to you then to be charming enough to get her on dates etc. (personality)

    I can understand why the OP is frustrated, because this is quite longwinded and pretty frustrating way of doing things, even though it works. Sometimes as a guy, you want things to be nice and simple, rather than having to break down barriers just to get a shot.
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    Confidence and charisma go further than looks and ting.
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    (Original post by fat_hobbit)
    That's where having good mates as an average asian guy helps a lot.

    Take the following scenario (I have been in this one so many times) -

    You meet a girl at a house party, you like her, but you are not her type initially/or she is 50-50.

    Now in a night club environment, what would typically happen, she will find a way to disqualify me quickly. Especially if I am not her type initially. It is even worse in the virtual world, Tinder etc.

    I am a stranger - and the way she will look at it, why should I waste my time with you?

    Now if you are popular, well liked in your social circle, say more so than her.

    This can play in your favour.

    Her friends can be instrumental in helping her from going 50/50 to giving you a shot to chat to her. It is up to you then to be charming enough to get her on dates etc.

    I can understand why the OP is frustrated, because this is quite longwinded and pretty frustrating way of doing things, even though it works. Sometimes as a guy, you want things to be nice and simple, rather than having to break down barriers just to get a shot.
    Difference is you have learnt this through trial and error! You wanted something u went out to get it. Even though your a bad closer.

    TSR is full of over sex girls, its just about qualifying them.
 
 
 
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