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    (Original post by The Financier)
    The NUS isn't just hated by the right-wing though. Unless you're an ultra-left winger or something, it's completely unrepresentative of anyone.
    Of course it's not only hated by the right, but I find it to be far more prevalent on the right, I remember a couple of months back the campus lib dems, myself, a kipper, and a couple of Labour people unanimously, including the chair, carrying a motion to abolish the student union, despite one of them standing for president. Sadly a massive numberof students still vote for them and whenever a referendum is held on membership of the NUS it always reaches quorum comfortably and is very comfortably in favour of staying.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Cambridge is redbrick? All the good plate-glass universities are redbrick? The odd former poly that is actually half decent now is red brick?
    baited imo
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Read: the only non-redbrick uni.
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    (Original post by The Financier)
    The NUS isn't just hated by the right-wing though. Unless you're an ultra-left winger or something, it's completely unrepresentative of anyone.
    I think most people who vote to affiliate are just like 'why not'.
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    (Original post by The Financier)
    That's the one which refuses to be on the league tables, right? :lol:
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    Yep. If you have a degree from there you'd be better off leaving it out of your CV..
    (Original post by The Financier)
    They're probably not much better than our local "rivals" Kingston, where staff actually tried to rig the National Student Survey because "if Kingston comes down the bottom [of the league tables], then the bottom line is that nobody is going to want to employ you because they are going to think your degree is ****"
    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Read: the only non-redbrick uni.
    League tables have become a scourge and seem to me to be overvalued. Not just at universities.

    For schools, if they keep changing their names, as will occur with forced academies, then comparing how a school has improved (or not) becomes more difficult. As well as the Green manifesto proposal of no forced academisation, maybe we should think about restricting the circumstances where a school or other academic institution can rename itself.
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    (Original post by Little Toy Gun)
    I think most people who vote to affiliate are just like 'why not'.
    Discounts and deals such as on insurance that may be available may be a factor too.
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    (Original post by Whiggy)
    https://twitter.com/shshshdiamond/st...36856850235392

    I could only take a 30-second snippet, as that's all that Twitter would allow.
    Terrible song, but you did OK kid

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    (Original post by Andy98)
    Terrible song, but you did OK kid

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    Haha, thanks!
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    (Original post by Whiggy)
    Haha, thanks!
    Tis OK

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    (Original post by Little Toy Gun)
    I think most people who vote to affiliate are just like 'why not'.
    I get the feeling in the disaffiliation referendums the SU say "**** the spending limits" and funnily enough most people know about them and there is an unusually high turnout, double figure percentages, when most struggle to get to 5 (with the socialists getting all posts when they lost the "make somebody else pay for my education" referendum because they didn't let people know about it, even the other socialists only found out about it after polls closed, and we won simply by not voting so it didn't reach quorum).

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    (Original post by The Financier)
    The NUS isn't just hated by the right-wing though. Unless you're an ultra-left winger or something, it's completely unrepresentative of anyone.
    Not really. I'm in favour of a confederation of student unions and the NUS is half-decent at that, but what annoys me is the lack of direct democracy and its failure at campaigning effectively on student issues - I've joined the NCAFC for the campaigning side.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    League tables have become a scourge and seem to me to be overvalued. Not just at universities.

    For schools, if they keep changing their names, as will occur with forced academies, then comparing how a school has improved (or not) becomes more difficult. As well as the Green manifesto proposal of no forced academisation, maybe we should think about restricting the circumstances where a school or other academic institution can rename itself.
    Hear, hear. The mental health support people at my (prestigious Kentish grammar) school have had the highest ever number of students coming to see them for the first time this year. I can't help but wonder how much of that is to do with the massively increased pressure to get As and A*s that has resulted from the fact that we slipped a bit down the county league tables last year.
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    Hear, hear. The mental health support people at my (prestigious Kentish grammar) school have had the highest ever number of students coming to see them for the first time this year. I can't help but wonder how much of that is to do with the massively increased pressure to get As and A*s that has resulted from the fact that we slipped a bit down the county league tables last year.
    Capitalist pig!
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    Capitalist pig!
    How so, given that it's a state school that I got into through hard work rather than excessive tutoring?
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    How so, given that it's a state school that I got into through hard work rather than excessive tutoring?
    I thought leftists hate elitist grammar schools. Hard work? You ableist snob! Think about all those mentally handicapped black muslim girls from Sudan—you had huge a head start.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    I thought leftists hate elitist grammar schools. Hard work? You ableist snob! Think about all those mentally handicapped black muslim girls from Sudan—you had huge a head start.
    Grammar schools aren't necessarily elitist, although the admissions system is massively flawed and needs reforming to level the field so that intelligent students who happen to not be able to afford tutoring can get in.
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    The Welsh Government in their early days decided to abolish school league tables. In the last three or four years they have brought them back, first with numbered bands and now with traffic-light ratings (green, yellow, amber, red). There's now zero transparency as to how the ratings are reached, but if even the Welsh Government has realised that abolition of league tables was a crap policy then it probably is one.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Grammar schools aren't necessarily elitist, although the admissions system is massively flawed and needs reforming to level the field so that intelligent students who happen to not be able to afford tutoring can get in.
    Oh, I know they aren't but you said prestigious. Those other poor kids will have to make do with conventional.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    The Welsh Government in their early days decided to abolish school league tables. In the last three or four years they have brought them back, first with numbered bands and now with traffic-light ratings (green, yellow, amber, red). There's now zero transparency as to how the ratings are reached, but if even the Welsh Government has realised that abolition of league tables was a crap policy then it probably is one.
    Naturally the welsh government ****ed up, it's labour lead

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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Discounts and deals such as on insurance that may be available may be a factor too.
    Oh yeah. But it's mostly for them to use at home or for their family since their student ID should be sufficient in their university city.
 
 
 
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