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# MAT Prep Thread - 2nd November 2016 watch

1. (Original post by 11234)
lol yea mine vary quite a bit as well. Do u do any olympiad maths. I'm using some olympiad and step to help prep....though dont know how relevant they are
nah but now that ive ran out of papers to do im gonna do some aea papers
also im gonna take a look at some of the pre 2007 mat papers
2. Is the MAT on the first Wednesday of November? If so it will be on the 1st of November 2017
3. Is there any knowledge outside of C1/2 we needed have have covered for this?
4. (Original post by KloppOClock)
nah but now that ive ran out of papers to do im gonna do some aea papers
also im gonna take a look at some of the pre 2007 mat papers
same i ran out too. I can do the aea but it has core 3 and 4 stuff too which im not surewill come up
5. (Original post by joodaa)
Is it just me or is the 2015 paper a massive step up from all the other papers?
(Original post by KloppOClock)
yeah i dont know how the average score stayed around the same as the previous years
6. (Original post by Carman3)
...on the oxford website, just literally google oxford mat past papers
7. (Original post by Carman3)

2015 paper here: https://www.maths.ox.ac.uk/system/fi...nts/test15.pdf
8. (Original post by KloppOClock)
for 2015 question 4 part i, I don't get why m=0. I mean I know how they got to m=0 but I don't know why that means m is 0

if you have a circle of
and all you know is that it passes through (-1,0) and (1,0)
then couldn't m,h,r = -1,+1,1
or
m,h,r = -2,2,5

all these values give a circle that passes through those points??
^^^
9. (Original post by Moogle679)
Is there any knowledge outside of C1/2 we needed have have covered for this?
On the syllabus, only c1/c2 knowledge is required, although doing more maths will be useful
10. Thanks.
11. lol so i got like 45 in the 2015 paper........ what is life
12. (Original post by some-student)
On the syllabus, only c1/c2 knowledge is required, although doing more maths will be useful
Thank you, is there anything more in specific you would recommend?
13. https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/w...56dfc5cd_1.pdf

Question 1H. Is there a way to calculate how many multiples of 2, 3 and 2 &3 there are in 6000 or any other number for that matter or is it just a known fact or something
14. (Original post by joodaa)
lol so i got like 45 in the 2015 paper........ what is life
**** that paper. Honestly it was ridiculous.
15. (Original post by Carman3)
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/w...56dfc5cd_1.pdf

Question 1H. Is there a way to calculate how many multiples of 2, 3 and 2 &3 there are in 6000 or any other number for that matter or is it just a known fact or something
1,2,3,4,5,6
2 of those out of 6 are just multiples of 2
1 of those out of 6 are multiples of 3
1 of those out of 6 are multiples of 2 and 3

so 6000/6 = 1000
1000 lots of +4
1000 lots of +3

6000/3 = 2000
2000 lots of +2

giving a total of 11000
16. (Original post by BurdMan)
**** that paper. Honestly it was ridiculous.
i'm so scared that this years paper will be similar since the average score didnt change that much :/
17. (Original post by KloppOClock)
1,2,3,4,5,6
2 of those out of 6 are just multiples of 2
1 of those out of 6 are multiples of 3
1 of those out of 6 are multiples of 2 and 3

so 6000/6 = 1000
1000 lots of +4
1000 lots of +3

6000/3 = 2000
2000 lots of +2

giving a total of 11000
ohhh thanks
18. I am really confuzed with question 1J I have no clue what the question is or what the solution says..

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/w...56dfc5cd_1.pdf
19. (Original post by joodaa)
That was the only part of the question I could do ( I think)
I put those two points into the equation and got 2 simultaneous ones where h and r cancelled out leaving 4m equals 0, so m equals 0 if that makes sense.
yeah i know i got that, but what im confused about is that the other points work too
20. (Original post by Moogle679)
Thank you, is there anything more in specific you would recommend?
I'm not too sure... I'm in year 12 so it's still another year until I'm doing the MAT but I just like doing the questions because I've done most of C1 & C2 - although I really should stop using all the MAT papers because I should revise from them next year . On the thread, people are doing AEA (but requires C3/C4 knowledge). Maybe try some of the UKMT senior challenge questions - or maybe those from the Olympiad

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