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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Was very very weak on other questions and simply avoided them.

    Would be suicide for the Tories to scoot off to the right and make him PM. Especially if Labour elect a centrist.
    I see you're back to bash on tories and avoid questions.

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    I see you're back to bash on tories and avoid questions.

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    Which questions have I avoided? None is the answer.
    I'm not bashing the Tories. I've been very happy with Cameron in the EU referendum. He's been prime ministerial and I've been glad for him to lead the country.

    I'm bashing gove for running and avoiding from every question he was asked.

    For some weird reason you're incredibly sensitive about it all. I don't think I've seen you once criticise the leave campaign and its no surprise. You're a stooge, incapable of your own thought. You just get carried along by the latest bandwagon.

    Ffs you're allowed to criticise both sides. You SeeM incapable.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Which questions have I avoided? None is the answer.
    I'm not bashing the Tories. I've been very happy with Cameron in the EU referendum. He's been prime ministerial and I've been glad for him to lead the country.

    I'm bashing gove for running and avoiding from every question he was asked.

    For some weird reason you're incredibly sensitive about it all. I don't think I've seen you once criticise the leave campaign and its no surprise. You're a stooge, incapable of your own thought. You just get carried along by the latest bandwagon.

    Ffs you're allowed to criticise both sides. You SeeM incapable.
    How on earth has Cameron been prime ministerial? He's been snapping at interviewers and engaging in scare mongering - if he truly believes that leaving the EU would be catastrophic, why did he allow a referendum? To expose the country to the possibility of such disasters seems irresponsible and hardly what I'd want in a prime minister.
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    How on earth has Cameron been prime ministerial? He's been snapping at interviewers and engaging in scare mongering - if he truly believes that leaving the EU would be catastrophic, why did he allow a referendum? To expose the country to the possibility of such disasters seems irresponsible and hardly what I'd want in a prime minister.
    Cameron answers the questions he's asked. Gove doesn't. He just avoids them.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Cameron answers the questions he's asked. Gove doesn't. He just avoids them.
    If what Cameron is doing is answering questions then I would like to see what avoidance is, just because he says he's answering something directly doesn't mean he is. Care to remind me how many times the audience told him he hadn't answered their question, or how many times the interviewer told him off for talking about what he wanted to talk about rather than answering the question?

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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Which questions have I avoided? None is the answer.
    I'm not bashing the Tories. I've been very happy with Cameron in the EU referendum. He's been prime ministerial and I've been glad for him to lead the country.

    I'm bashing gove for running and avoiding from every question he was asked.

    For some weird reason you're incredibly sensitive about it all. I don't think I've seen you once criticise the leave campaign and its no surprise. You're a stooge, incapable of your own thought. You just get carried along by the latest bandwagon.

    Ffs you're allowed to criticise both sides. You SeeM incapable.
    can someone make a plaque of this and never let blue forget he said it? dw, we'll protect you if the socialists and greens try to assassinate you.
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    can someone make a plaque of this and never let blue forget he said it? dw, we'll protect you if the socialists and greens try to assassinate you.
    I'm not partisan. I dislike Cameron hugely, I disagree with him on almost everything. The EU however, he's been spot on.
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    We don't need the EU, once again we are the coke capital of Europe.

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    Just finished watching Gove, and I must say, I do not know what BB was watching, but it was certainly not what he thinks it was, either that or he is the stereotypical leftie that sticks their fingers in their ears when they hear something they disagree with, which seems accurate from what I have seen of them over the last 15 months.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Just finished watching Gove, and I must say, I do not know what BB was watching, but it was certainly not what he thinks it was, either that or he is the stereotypical leftie that sticks their fingers in their ears when they hear something they disagree with, which seems accurate from what I have seen of them over the last 15 months.

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    He didn't answer a single question on the economics- he dodged them.
    Of course you fully support him though, being the stereotypical right winger eh, incapable of your own thought.

    I've been firmly backing Cameron in this referendum. Hardly a lefty.

    Also great to see John major slate gove and johnson for the shameless opportunists they are. They wish to privatise the NHS yet claim we Shiism be funding it instead of the EU..


    Gove was diabolical. Did okay on sovereignty questions but totally clueless on the economics. All he said was economists were wrong without any evidence or proof of his own. He also continued to lie about the 350 million figure.

    Cameron on the other hand has actually answered the questions which have been put to him and looks prime ministerial.
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    Give shredded again on Peston this morning. He's okayish when he talks about abstract things like sovereignty. But when he's questioned on the economics of it al he's like a chocolate tea pot. He cannot answer a single question re the economics and resorts to denial and outright lies.

    Pretty much sums up the leave campaign.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Give shredded again on Peston this morning. He's okayish when he talks about abstract things like sovereignty. But when he's questioned on the economics of it al he's like a chocolate tea pot. He cannot answer a single question re the economics and resorts to denial and outright lies.

    Pretty much sums up the leave campaign.
    He took a dig at Farage though, which was good to see.

    I'd say though out of all the leave campaigners he's the best of a bad bunch.
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    He took a dig at Farage though, which was good to see.

    I'd say though out of all the leave campaigners he's the best of a bad bunch.
    In terms of style yes. But in terms of substance he's as hollow as the rest of them.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Give shredded again on Peston this morning. He's okayish when he talks about abstract things like sovereignty. But when he's questioned on the economics of it al he's like a chocolate tea pot. He cannot answer a single question re the economics and resorts to denial and outright lies.

    Pretty much sums up the leave campaign.
    (Original post by EricAteYou)
    He took a dig at Farage though, which was good to see.

    I'd say though out of all the leave campaigners he's the best of a bad bunch.
    Michael Gove is a lot better than Boris Johnson of the campaigners for a Brexit. IDS is making up scare stories and none of the others seem to be getting a hearing very much.

    Caroline Lucas has observed how little women's voices are being heard in this debate. Many of the EU protections in employment and to an extent the environment have benefited women more, even though intended for all. An example is the protections for part-time and agency workers, or that those to reduce diesel emissions benefit pedestrians, who on longer walking journeys are more likely to be women.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    He didn't answer a single question on the economics- he dodged them.
    Of course you fully support him though, being the stereotypical right winger eh, incapable of your own thought.

    I've been firmly backing Cameron in this referendum. Hardly a lefty.

    Also great to see John major slate gove and johnson for the shameless opportunists they are. They wish to privatise the NHS yet claim we Shiism be funding it instead of the EU..


    Gove was diabolical. Did okay on sovereignty questions but totally clueless on the economics. All he said was economists were wrong without any evidence or proof of his own. He also continued to lie about the 350 million figure.

    Cameron on the other hand has actually answered the questions which have been put to him and looks prime ministerial.
    Figures on how much migration would be reduced if we left the EU are lacking from the Leave campaign. This might be because once you allow for essential occupations such as care workers and doctors, remember that it is a two way street and so fewer would leave, and add in those who would be accepted as wives or husbands of British citizens, perhaps in my estimate only about 10-15% of all migration could cease. Half of all net migration is from outside the EU.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    He didn't answer a single question on the economics- he dodged them.
    Of course you fully support him though, being the stereotypical right winger eh, incapable of your own thought.

    I've been firmly backing Cameron in this referendum. Hardly a lefty.

    Also great to see John major slate gove and johnson for the shameless opportunists they are. They wish to privatise the NHS yet claim we Shiism be funding it instead of the EU..


    Gove was diabolical. Did okay on sovereignty questions but totally clueless on the economics. All he said was economists were wrong without any evidence or proof of his own. He also continued to lie about the 350 million figure.

    Cameron on the other hand has actually answered the questions which have been put to him and looks prime ministerial.
    Wait, so now you're implying that the only questions asked were Faisel's economic questions and you put your fingers in your ears for the rest? You have declared that not a single question was answered, and then how you seem to be saying "he didn't answer a single question, except the majority of the questions," all you had to do was listen to the audience to hear that Gove did so much better

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    Figures on how much migration would be reduced if we left the EU are lacking from the Leave campaign. This might be because once you allow for essential occupations such as care workers and doctors, remember that it is a two way street and so fewer would leave, and add in those who would be accepted as wives or husbands of British citizens, perhaps in my estimate only about 10-15% of all migration could cease. Half of all net migration is from outside the EU.
    And exactly as Gove was saying the other night: if vote leave try saying anything they will be accused of lying and cannot possibly give an accurate answer, it's government policy that determines so many things that people want vote leave to predict the future for. What will migration figures be? God knows, depends what the government decides to do.
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    I got bored so I watched several minutes of the new Top Gear. It's total ****. ****ing stupid BBC with their PC multicultural committees and no taste… Evans is the kind of guy that tries too much, yet achieves nothing. I can't believe they pay him so much.

    It's offensive to air this unimaginative baloney under the brand, just like US Top Gear. I wish Clarkson owned the brand and took it with him.
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    I got bored so I watched a several minutes of the new Top Gear. It's total ****. ****ing stupid BBC with their PC multicultural committees and no taste… Evans is the kind of guy that tries too much, yet achieves nothing. I can't believe they pay him so much.

    It's offensive to air this unimaginative baloney under the brand, just like US Top Gear. I wish Clarkson owned the brand and took it with him.
    Told you

    But yes, I agree. Especially with Evans... He's a pile of crap on there - hope you read this Evans!!

    Much looking forward to the Grand Tour later this year!!
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    (Original post by Life_peer)
    I got bored so I watched several minutes of the new Top Gear. It's total ****. ****ing stupid BBC with their PC multicultural committees and no taste… Evans is the kind of guy that tries too much, yet achieves nothing. I can't believe they pay him so much.

    It's offensive to air this unimaginative baloney under the brand, just like US Top Gear. I wish Clarkson owned the brand and took it with him.
    I saved myself the few minutes by not watching it at all.
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    Leave continuing to gain momentum. Yougov poll today has Leave at a 4% lead on Remain at 45% vs 41%, whilst the general odds of Brexit have increased to around 28-29%. It's going to be an interesting lead-up to the vote.

    Edit: New ICM poll has Leave leading by 5%, at 48% vs 43%. The timing probably includes the general impact of the Sky questions.
 
 
 
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