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    (Original post by MASTER265)
    I mean forgive and forget this recent conflict until the next one. At the moment we have more important things to worry about like the Ukraine crisis, Syria, ISIS and recently Libya
    like I said, YOU have nothing to forget or forgive.
    If you don't like reading about Palestine and the horrible things happening there, simply don't read about it any more.
    'we have more important things' as if your personal estimation of importance of events is even remotely significant in the real world.
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    (Original post by MASTER265)
    ISIS, Syria and the Russian conflict present a greater threat to global security than Israel ever will. What threat does Israel pose to us? Nothing that is
    What threat do ISIS Syria and Ukraine conflicts reasonably pose? The only one I can see potentially posing any real risk is ISIS, and it's unclear whether it actually will or not, and if it does it will be a long way down the line.
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    (Original post by MASTER265)
    Look at the election results in Palestine and tell me the majority are not HAMAS supporters
    Election results are not indicative of "majority support".
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    (Original post by well in the dark)
    like I said, YOU have nothing to forget or forgive.
    If you don't like reading about Palestine and the horrible things happening there, simply don't read about it any more.
    'we have more important things' as if your personal estimation of importance of events is even remotely significant in the real world.
    I do not understand since the conflict is practically at its end why keep going on about it?
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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    Election results are not indicative of "majority support".
    You are right
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    What threat do ISIS Syria and Ukraine conflicts reasonably pose? The only one I can see potentially posing any real risk is ISIS, and it's unclear whether it actually will or not, and if it does it will be a long way down the line.
    You make a very good point
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    (Original post by MASTER265)
    I do not understand since the conflict is practically at its end why keep going on about it?
    What's an 'end'? Can you explain what you mean by the conflict's 'end'? That Israel has decided to partially pull out its troops, is that an 'end' enough for you? The people whose parents children and loved ones were killed or injured, whose homes have been demolished, it's not an 'end' for them. It isn't an 'end' for Hamas who wants the blockade lifted. It will not be an 'end' until Palestine is restored to those from whom it was forcibly taken.
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    (Original post by MASTER265)
    You make a very good point
    What is far more important at this time is making sure that the economic growth ball keeps going for the next few years. Then the west can start looking for business to stick their unwanted noses in again.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    What is far more important at this time is making sure that the economic growth ball keeps going for the next few years. Then the west can start looking for business to stick their unwanted noses in again.
    Very true
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    (Original post by well in the dark)
    What's an 'end'? Can you explain what you mean by the conflict's 'end'? That Israel has decided to partially pull out its troops, is that an 'end' enough for you? The people whose parents children and loved ones were killed or injured, whose homes have been demolished, it's not an 'end' for them. It isn't an 'end' for Hamas who wants the blockade lifted. It will not be an 'end' until Palestine is restored to those from whom it was forcibly taken.
    The only way of achieving true peace is to forgive and build a strong relationship
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    (Original post by MASTER265)
    You are right
    So why did you state that he was probably a HAMAS supporter when you are basing this on the election results which are not indicative of "majority support"?

    You have no arguments and you have been unable to hold onto any as they have been shredded by other people.
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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    So why did you state that he was probably a HAMAS supporter when you are basing this on the election results which are not indicative of "majority support"?

    You have no arguments and you have been unable to hold onto any as they have been shredded by other people.
    Yes, you are correct
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    (Original post by MASTER265)
    Yes, you are correct
    I accept your capitulation graciously and I do look forward to our next encounter...
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    (Original post by tsr1269)
    I accept your capitulation graciously and I do look forward to our next encounter...
    Couldn't put it better myself
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    (Original post by Sic semper erat)
    islamonazi minister resigns from British cabinet, haha
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J6-3l3hCm0
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    (Original post by Sic semper erat)
    islamonazi minister resigns from British cabinet, haha
    Maybe you don't like it, but the world is starting to doubt the stories Israel publishes. Again, why the "islamonazi" tag? You're not even debating properly, so I don't see the point. Well done to Lady Warsi - I do not normally subscribe to her views, but she has shown more balls than David Cameron. How can anybody with an iota of humanity not be sensitive to the naked, hypocritical, and barbaric aggression of a rogue Israel against the children and civilians.
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    (Original post by Hectic)
    Maybe you don't like it, but the world is starting to doubt the stories Israel publishes. Again, why the "islamonazi" tag? You're not even debating properly, so I don't see the point. Well done to Lady Warsi - I do not normally subscribe to her views, but she has shown more balls than David Cameron. How can anybody with an iota of humanity not be sensitive to the naked, hypocritical, and barbaric aggression of a rogue Israel against the children and civilians.
    no it shows she no longer has the ear of other senior politicians, once a politican looses their influence, they are consigned to the scrap heap. Warsi is also in an impossible position - as a high profile muslim she HAS to show herself attacking israel. if she openly supported them, she would paint a target on her head for every nutcase living in the west

    i think it also shows that various governments and indeed populations (not jsut uk) are hardening in thier stance toward these sort of conflcits, which are driven by people like hamas. you can lay the blame for that squarely on the islamists and the havoc bad feeling they have caused over last 20 years all over the world. the average layperson is unlikely to support people who side with groups with idoelogies that have caused conflcits all over the globe wherever they have settled, and to the average person with a family , have to now go through a completly over-hauled security process on any holiday or flight they take - all thanks to actions of morons with islamic agendas
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    (Original post by Hectic)
    Maybe you don't like it, but the world is starting to doubt the stories Israel publishes. Again, why the "islamonazi" tag? You're not even debating properly, so I don't see the point. Well done to Lady Warsi - I do not normally subscribe to her views, but she has shown more balls than David Cameron. How can anybody with an iota of humanity not be sensitive to the naked, hypocritical, and barbaric aggression of a rogue Israel against the children and civilians.
    Politicians are not meant to engage with their humanity in serious situations.
    That job is for the public who have no responsibility but as these ministers have a significant amount of responsibility they have to approach events such as this with an open mind and non-bias view, whether you like it or not politicians have to to respond to thorough investigations.

    I am no fan of David Cameron but he has shown more balls than the likes of Ed Miliband. Ed responded to public outrage and only sided with them for his political motives. Politicians are here to run the country not cry, get angry or make sudden moves based on public perception. They work on the basis of professionalism and not human emotion
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    (Original post by Meenglishnogood)
    no it shows she no longer has the ear of other senior politicians, once a politican looses their influence, they are consigned to the scrap heap. Warsi is also in an impossible position - as a high profile muslim she HAS to show herself attacking israel. if she openly supported them, she would paint a target on her head for every nutcase living in the west
    Whether it does or does not is utterly irrelevant. It was a correct decision, no matter what reason might underlie it. And, just for the record - I'm not given to writing things supportive of Tories! Lady Warsi is a typically nasty Tory, but on this issue she is more in line with public opinion than her party. It may be that she identifies more easily with Muslims while the public are simply angry at the slaughter of civilians and children, or it may be that she cannot conscience supporting Israel's illegal land grabs and violence and it has nothing to do with her ethnic identity.
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    (Original post by Hectic)
    Whether it does or does not is utterly irrelevant. It was a correct decision, no matter what reason might underlie it. And, just for the record - I'm not given to writing things supportive of Tories! Lady Warsi is a typically nasty Tory, but on this issue she is more in line with public opinion than her party. It may be that she identifies more easily with Muslims while the public are simply angry at the slaughter of civilians and children, or it may be that she cannot conscience supporting Israel's illegal land grabs and violence and it has nothing to do with her ethnic identity.
    No i think its 100% to do with the fact she is a muslim - she would be crucified and beheaded ( literally) by the muslim community here if she took any other stance. and also that she isnt able to bend the prime-ministers ear with islamist rhetoric and sob stories about palestinian kids - the day uk politics is run in that manor is the day civilisation collapses.
    we are all angry at the slaughter of civilians and children - but not just palestinian kids, but all over the globe. islamists slaughter kids on a regular basis in various countries round the globe, i didnt see any muslim politicains resign over this. and i dot agree any fo these people are genuine about their concern for palestinan kids either - islamsits promote use of children as suicide bombers, they indoctrinate their youth to take up arms, and the biggest fact of all, hamas base their military amoung schools and hospitals to draw fire directly on palestinian civilians - i see no comment form Warsi about this. id rather not have hypocritesin government thank you
 
 
 
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