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    (Original post by Meenglishnogood)
    No i think its 100% to do with the fact she is a muslim - she would be crucified and beheaded ( literally) by the muslim community here if she took any other stance. and also that she isnt able to bend the prime-ministers ear with islamist rhetoric and sob stories about palestinian kids - the day uk politics is run in that manor is the day civilisation collapses.
    we are all angry at the slaughter of civilians and children - but not just palestinian kids, but all over the globe. islamists slaughter kids on a regular basis in various countries round the globe, i didnt see any muslim politicains resign over this. and i dot agree any fo these people are genuine about their concern for palestinan kids either - islamsits promote use of children as suicide bombers, they indoctrinate their youth to take up arms, and the biggest fact of all, hamas base their military amoung schools and hospitals to draw fire directly on palestinian civilians - i see no comment form Warsi about this. id rather not have hypocritesin government thank you
    No point of continuing this debate if that's what you believe.
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    (Original post by Hectic)
    No point of continuing this debate if that's what you believe.
    any right-minded person will say their country has to be governed with intelligence and logic, not islamic rhetoric and playing on peoples emotions.

    and as is said i dont think these 'emotions' are genuine anyway - taking about kids being killed is well and good, when it suits islamist propaganda. but what about kids being killed in iraq, pakistan, afganistan, CAR, sudan etc at the hands of islamists? silence falls. certianly no comment from Warsi on this. (or you it seems)

    so its good shes gone.
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    Watch this you palestine nuts
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    (Original post by Pussy Galore)


    Watch this you palestine nuts
    This guy is brilliant. Hope more people watch this.
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    (Original post by Bill_Gates)
    Remember when Israel conquered Syria, Jordan and Egypt?!

    Lmao now theres some losers eh

    :rolleyes:
    western backed NaZionists lol
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    (Original post by Zen Baphomet)
    Two wrongs don't make a right, we are focusing on this issue dont try and detract from it by pointing to the same actions on the other side.

    The (British) Media is shockingly bias in favour of Palestine and Gaza , so it's good to have a few shots taken at the Palestinians every now and again just to keep things balanced.
    are you ****ing kidding me or what? bias in favour of the Palestinians? please! only the exact opposite is true.
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    (Original post by BasharAssad)
    western backed NaZionists lol
    Yes totally wiped the floor with them haha
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    (Original post by Pussy Galore)


    Watch this you palestine nuts
    Israelis are the nutters, calling Gaza a cemetery and asking the IDF execute all Palestinians in Gaza OH AND THE MURDER OF 2000 INNOCENT CIVILLIANS including the bombings of numerous UN schools
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    (Original post by Sic semper erat)
    Al Guardian loves the islamonazis more than any of them
    well the BBC is clearly in favour of the NaZionist Jews
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    This is something that needs to be watched, no stupid bias - just cold, hard facts.

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      (Original post by BasharAssad)
      are you ****ing kidding me or what? bias in favour of the Palestinians? please! only the exact opposite is true.
      I can't turn on BBC News without seeing a ten minute reel of injured/sad/Palestinian faces, followed by a five minute diatrad about how Evil Israel is and all their war crimes.
      Followed by a brief ten seconds of rushed "andhamasfiredrocketsatcivllians andkilledtwopeople"
      Followed by some closing shots of sad/injured Palestinian children.
      It's horrifically bias.

      Don't get me wrong, Israel is by far and away in the wrong here, and are guilty of war-crimes.
      But the ammount of air-time Palestinian victims get compared to Israli is just shockingly bias.\
      All the news winges on about is "Palestine is so devastated" "What is going on here is so horrible "The UN has yet again condemned Isralis actions "It is the feeling of many that Israel has overstepped the mark"
      I don't know a single person at work who isn't INSANELY Pro-palestine, and these are people who only get there news from the BBC and it's ilk

      People forget that if Hamas stopped firing rockets into Israel, Israel would stop roflstomping them into oblivion and that this recent wave of (excessive) action against Gaza was caused by yet another wave of Hamas attacks.
      When a mosquito bites a giant, it can't winge when the giant squashes it.
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      The BBC is not biased towards Palestinian people. People need to stop distorting reality - the BBC has never been impartial when it comes to this conflict. The BBC gives its audience lots of pro-Israeli propaganda, and continues to defend Israel's position. Why do you think many people protest? Just look at the image - which is real, check it out on their website - below. Secondly, let's not forget who started the recent conflict: Israel. And do you, Zen Baphomet, really think that if Hamas stopped firing rockets, no one would be killed? Take a look at 2014 and 2012. More importantly, people need to have a balanced view and realise that both Israel and Hamas should be heavily criticised. However, only one side is killing innocent civilians and forcing them to live in a prison.


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      (Original post by Hectic)
      The BBC is not biased towards Palestinian people. People need to stop distorting reality - the BBC has never been impartial when it comes to this conflict. The BBC gives its audience lots of pro-Israeli propaganda, and continues to defend Israel's position. Why do you think many people protest? Just look at the image - which is real, check it out on their website - below. Secondly, let's not forget who started the recent conflict: Israel. And do you, Zen Baphomet, really think that if Hamas stopped firing rockets, no one would be killed? Take a look at 2014 and 2012. More importantly, people need to have a balanced view and realise that both Israel and Hamas should be heavily criticised. However, only one side is killing innocent civilians and forcing them to live in a prison.

      hamas has killed plenty of civilians in fact they dont care who they kill as long as they are not muslims. israel take attempts at least to minimise civilian casualiy in this conflict though noone is blind to the fact that they are piss poor at doing this, nowhere on the elvel f the west in terms of carefully planned and managed attacks. even with the most meticulously operated army response, taking on terrorists that operate within civilians will always have some sort of civlian loss - and hamas know this.

      in terms of the media, yes i agree BBC is not biased towards Palestinian ( individual journalists maybe but not as an organisation) but they are good, as most media outlets at running emotional reports filming people standing on piles of rubble shrieking - which i think is irresponsible reporting. when i watch the news i want background facts not dramatised sob stories whcih dont really take us anywhere- but then this is modern day sensationlist reporting. we dont need to see these reports to know its sad the civilians are suffering - we need to know wahts being done to prevent them. its also hard to feel sorry for some people that complain but cannot condemn the terororists hamas that palestinains voted in, that use them and their neighbourhoods as human shields while antagonising the idf- making this point is not supporting israel, its simply stating fact
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      There are reports that the teens and young people of Israel are consulting more and more psychiatrists. They have lived under the constant threat of rocker fire. They say their fears have increased as they expect Hamas to retaliate very hard in the coming months...they run for cover as soon as the sirens are heard. Shrapnel falling from the sky also scatter some streets at times making it hard for people to walk. They have full faith on the Iron Dome though, and they wholeheartedly welcome the US fund to support the system.
      The levels if depression are increasing and people couldn't live like this. Something had to be done for the rocket fire and tunnels and so it was.

      So I think this operation was very worth the 60 odd lives. Most of them were soldiers though, so that's okay. Also the 3 civilians and their families will be honoured to the highest degree (all respect to them - they showed their true Zionist colours). These people made it possible for Israel to do something without the expense of it's land - great!

      So now the Israelites can live more in peace of mind. Maybe Hamas can't come back strongly...no longer do one have to fear their children being killed by rockets. Still 3000 rockets more to come though, but meh, they will be intercepted.

      Another problem would be the DBS and their work. I dunno why they hate Israel so much. Israel has killed 800+ terrorists and they still think that Israel did not do what's right. Damn them...damn those who sympathise with the terrorists.

      I guess its enough of Fox news and TOI, maybe its time to watch Al-Jazeera. The US viewers maybe missing something

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      (Original post by Pinzgauer)
      Yet the palestinians have genocide of Israel in their charter.
      Calling for the destruction of a State, as opposed to it's people, contravenes no law that I can think of. The denial of self-determination, on the other hand...
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      Anyone know where that Pinzer chap has gone?
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      Anyone got a good link to an unbiased history of the conflict. Preferably a video
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      (Original post by Temporality)
      Anyone got a good link to an unbiased history of the conflict. Preferably a video
      check out the video I posted above, it highlights the whole conflict in detail without bias
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      (Original post by tsr1269)
      Calling for the destruction of a State, as opposed to it's people, contravenes no law that I can think of. The denial of self-determination, on the other hand...
      Choice quotes from the Hamas Charter: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

      This Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), clarifies its picture, reveals its identity, outlines its stand, explains its aims, speaks about its hopes, and calls for its support, adoption and joining its ranks. Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious. It needs all sincere efforts. It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps. The Movement is but one squadron that should be supported by more and more squadrons from this vast Arab and Islamic world, until the enemy is vanquished and Allah's victory is realised.
      and

      Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

      "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
      and

      Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. "May the cowards never sleep."
      I think its pretty clear that their aim is to wipe out the Jews starting with Israel.
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