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    (Original post by heiljoe)
    no its because when Yaya was scouted, he was playing as a striker and Arsene described him as 'distinctly average'
    What does that make Sanogo? :rofl:
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    Yes, that's why we didnt go through the hassle of sending him on loan for years and waiting for a work permit. We would have signed him there and then if we could have.
    didnt he used to play as a CB for Barca at first?

    anyway what do you make of his claims that he is underrated because he is African? Personally, I think he's fairly rated, and think he thinks he is better than he actually is.
    Take away his set piece goals and he gets an average amount of goals for a CM. Then look at his work rate, he may bomb forward, but he wont track back too fast. Defensively, he's not a great tackler or anything, and neither does he seem to be able to read the game and dictate it like other world class CMs.
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    (Original post by midnightice)
    What does that make Sanogo? :rofl:
    someone who was scouted, and the scout reported he was more than just distinctly average (for his age). duh. doesn't take a genius to come to that conclusion.
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    (Original post by LostGear)
    As if you're any better? eff off mate
    Better at what?

    The Arsenal soc used to be the most informative of the all the societies with some great posters. Now it's just become the most aggressive (your post just further proves my point).
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    (Original post by EmperorMustard)
    Couldn't get a work permit.
    Joel Campbell couldn't get one either. Didn't stop Wenger signing him! Although in all fairness, that's easy to say with the benefit of hindsight. Even when Manchester City signed him, there was talk of him being used as a makeweight for Fabregas and not many people thought he'd do well.

    Quite scary to think Arsenal could easily have ended up with Toure, Ronaldo and Cech in the same window.
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    (Original post by sr90)
    Joel Campbell couldn't get one either. Didn't stop Wenger signing him! Although in all fairness, that's easy to say with the benefit of hindsight. Even when Manchester City signed him, there was talk of him being used as a makeweight for Fabregas and not many people thought he'd do well.

    Quite scary to think Arsenal could easily have ended up with Toure, Ronaldo and Cech in the same window.
    That Ronaldo transfer was very dodgy if you look into it.

    I reckon if Wenger/Arsenal played a little 'game' with the agents, wink wink nudge nudge, that we would have got Ronaldo. Utd played that 'game' and snatched him at the last minute
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    Utd played that 'game' and snatched him at the last minute
    sauce.
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    That Ronaldo transfer was very dodgy if you look into it.

    I reckon if Wenger/Arsenal played a little 'game' with the agents, wink wink nudge nudge, that we would have got Ronaldo. Utd played that 'game' and snatched him at the last minute
    If it wasn't for Carlos Queiroz, he'd have been Arsenals no.9.
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    (Original post by sr90)
    Joel Campbell couldn't get one either. Didn't stop Wenger signing him! Although in all fairness, that's easy to say with the benefit of hindsight. Even when Manchester City signed him, there was talk of him being used as a makeweight for Fabregas and not many people thought he'd do well.

    Quite scary to think Arsenal could easily have ended up with Toure, Ronaldo and Cech in the same window.
    even if we did, im pretty sure we would have sold all of them anyway during the transition years.

    can you imagine Arsene saying no to 80 million :lol:
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    (Original post by sr90)
    If it wasn't for Carlos Queiroz, he'd have been Arsenals no.9.
    That and the fact Wenger wasnt prepared to mess about with what was clearly a very dodgy transfer. Old Fergie didnt have such concerns, or he had better lawyers.

    (Original post by heiljoe)
    sauce.

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/dav...-ronaldo-agent

    Utd and the agents obviously 'worked' something out :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    That and the fact Wenger wasnt prepared to mess about with what was clearly a very dodgy transfer. Old Fergie didnt have such concerns, or he had better lawyers.




    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/dav...-ronaldo-agent

    Utd and the agents obviously 'worked' something out :rolleyes:
    hmm but at the same time Ronaldo was no secret either. Gerrard Houllier was in for him too.

    Man I hope we play Madrid next year :dreams:
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    Wenger might use Vela's clause to get Griezzmann in exchange.

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    (Original post by Kruz)
    Wenger might use Vela's clause to get Griezzmann in exchange.

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    doubt it. if he can get a player for 3m or 25m with similar abilities, fairly apparent he would take the former
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    (Original post by heiljoe)
    hmm but at the same time Ronaldo was no secret either. Gerrard Houllier was in for him too.
    Wasnt a secret obviously, but if you look at some of the payments made then the transfer is just dodgy tbh. Wenger's not the type to get involved in such transfers really, I think that's why we lost out. Ronaldo was all geared up to join, visited the training ground etc before all of this agent stuff started happening. Dont think it was Queiroz at all.
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    Wasnt a secret obviously, but if you look at some of the payments made then the transfer is just dodgy tbh. Wenger's not the type to get involved in such transfers really, I think that's why we lost out. Ronaldo was all geared up to join, visited the training ground etc before all of this agent stuff started happening. Dont think it was Queiroz at all.
    “I had Ronald at the training ground,” said Wenger at Friday’s press conference. “I showed him around and I gave him a shirt. It had got his name on the back.
    “But in the end it was a question of the amount of transfer fee between the two clubs. Of course, he has proved to be a bargain [at £12.25 million]. But the price that we discussed was in fact much lower, it was divided by three.

    Arsene's own words.

    Lol imagine we had signed Ronaldo for 4m though :rofl:
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    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...igning-ronaldo
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    (Original post by heiljoe)
    “I had Ronald at the training ground,” said Wenger at Friday’s press conference. “I showed him around and I gave him a shirt. It had got his name on the back.
    “But in the end it was a question of the amount of transfer fee between the two clubs. Of course, he has proved to be a bargain [at £12.25 million]. But the price that we discussed was in fact much lower, it was divided by three.

    Arsene's own words.

    Lol imagine we had signed Ronaldo for 4m though :rofl:
    I think it was as much about the agents getting involved, probably illegally, as it was about the hike. Both are linked of course as well.

    In those days Wenger was absolutely hustling. RVP £2.5m, Fabregas free, Toure free, G.Silva £3m, Henry £9m and had Zlatan, Toure, Ronaldo just chillin in the training ground waiting for a contract offer
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    I think it was as much about the agents getting involved, probably illegally, as it was about the hike. Both are linked of course as well.

    In those days Wenger was absolutely hustling. RVP £2.5m, Fabregas free, Toure free, G.Silva £3m, Henry £9m and had Zlatan, Toure, Ronaldo just chillin in the training ground waiting for a contract offer
    Fabregas came on loan:rolleyes:

    wonder how much Henry would go for in today's market...

    swear we in for Ribery at one point too
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    (Original post by midnightice)
    What does that make Sanogo? :rofl:
    Compare the standard of the team 10 years ago to now

    (Original post by Zerforax)
    Better at what?

    The Arsenal soc used to be the most informative of the all the societies with some great posters. Now it's just become the most aggressive (your post just further proves my point).
    This 19'th thread has generally been a lot better. I read a few pages from the old threads and will admit it was miles better than now but it's improved a lot recently. The guy who responded to you hardly posts here anyway (recently at least)

    (Original post by Kruz)
    Wenger might use Vela's clause to get Griezzmann in exchange.

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    There is absolute no reason to do this. One costs 3m the other in the 20-30m range. Both have 16 goals in La liga but one has already played in the EPL. Why go for Griezman?
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    (Original post by heiljoe)
    Fabregas came on loan:rolleyes:
    No he didn't. It was September 2003 when he signed, I remember it happening because it came up on the SSN ticker and I was saying to my Dad what a strange name it was. Bit of an odd way to remember it but oh well, I was 12 years old
 
 
 
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