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    (Original post by sr90)
    No he didn't. It was September 2003 when he signed, I remember it happening because it came up on the SSN ticker and I was saying to my Dad what a strange name it was. Bit of an odd way to remember it but oh well, I was 12 years old
    Jokes lost on this clown
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    we should thank united for how bad they were this year - UEFA just announced that as they failed to make the CL at all, we stay in Pot ONE, otherwise we would have fallen into pot TWO with one of Porto, Real Madrid (and/or atheltico), , Barca, Dortmund, PSG in our group from pot one, and possibly, liverpool from pot three and Monaco from four .

    with that kind of draw, Thursdays were a dead cert - but now, we can revel in the "we're still in the Champions League until the 2L of the last 16 in February''

    As it is, we could still get - Us, Juve, Liverpool and Monaco....hmmm

    Pot I
    Real Madrid
    FC Barcelona
    Bayern Munich
    Chelsea
    Benfica
    Atletico Madrid
    *Arsenal
    *FC Porto

    Pot II
    Schalke
    Borussia Dortmund
    Juventus
    Paris Saint-Germain
    Shakhtar Donetsk
    Basel
    *Zenit St. Petersburg
    Manchester City

    Pot III
    *Bayer Leverkusen
    Olympiakos
    CSKA Moscow
    Ajax
    *Napoli
    Liverpool
    Sporting Lisbon
    Galatasaray

    Pot IV
    Anderlecht
    *Salzburg
    Roma
    *Steaua Bucarest
    *Celtic
    *BATE Borisov
    *TBA
    AS Monaco

    looking at Pot Two I'm pretty confident our days in Pot One are numbered - City, PSG and Juve will see to that if they make the quarters and we don't...
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    Liverpool, Juve, Monaco - Potential group of death if we're in it
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Liverpool, Juve, Monaco - Potential group of death if we're in it
    Can't be in the same group as another team from the same country, surely?
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    (Original post by Loat)
    Can't be in the same group as another team from the same country, surely?
    No no ofcourse not bit my point stands


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    Also guys 25 years ago in the 78/79 we won an enthralling cup final 3-2, our first trophy in eight years, a period in which we relied on young players and nearly got relegated. The following season we blew the title with 4 games to go, and lost 2 cup finals within a week. We played over 70 games that season. The 79/80 season was very nearly the greatest season in the clubs history but we made the fatal mistake of not building on the foundation of blossoming winning team. The manager Terry Neill eventually left 3 years later through "mutual consent".

    Do you think we will improve on this? To be honest if you told me we'd be in a commanding title position next year and in final in two cups I'd be pretty ecstatic. Hopefully we too do not make the fatal mistake of not building on the foundations of the success of this season. Although with Wenger, Kroenke and Gazidis still in charge I'm not betting much on a lot of change happening. Hopefully I'm proven very wrong.
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    (Original post by Loat)
    Can't be in the same group as another team from the same country, surely?


    pot one and two can't draw nations from the same country - three and four can be, I think.
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    (Original post by what is this)
    we should thank united for how bad they were this year - UEFA just announced that as they failed to make the CL at all, we stay in Pot ONE, otherwise we would have fallen into pot TWO with one of Porto, Real Madrid (and/or atheltico), , Barca, Dortmund, PSG in our group from pot one, and possibly, liverpool from pot three and Monaco from four .

    with that kind of draw, Thursdays were a dead cert - but now, we can revel in the "we're still in the Champions League until the 2L of the last 16 in February''

    As it is, we could still get - Us, Juve, Liverpool and Monaco....hmmm

    Pot I
    Real Madrid
    FC Barcelona
    Bayern Munich
    Chelsea
    Benfica
    Atletico Madrid
    *Arsenal
    *FC Porto

    Pot II
    Schalke
    Borussia Dortmund
    Juventus
    Paris Saint-Germain
    Shakhtar Donetsk
    Basel
    *Zenit St. Petersburg
    Manchester City

    Pot III
    *Bayer Leverkusen
    Olympiakos
    CSKA Moscow
    Ajax
    *Napoli
    Liverpool
    Sporting Lisbon
    Galatasaray

    Pot IV
    Anderlecht
    *Salzburg
    Roma
    *Steaua Bucarest
    *Celtic
    *BATE Borisov
    *TBA
    AS Monaco

    looking at Pot Two I'm pretty confident our days in Pot One are numbered - City, PSG and Juve will see to that if they make the quarters and we don't...
    I disagree, Porto and Benfica should be beneath us and we should really be trying to displace Chelsea (if we are serious about substantially improving our squad this summer)
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    i don't want us to play bayern munich for at least 4+ years
    i swear we have played those *******s 5 times in 12 months

    I rather face any team than play against muller and neur again the smug faced *****.

    half that team look like they could be 1970's bond villains

    muller
    neur
    ribery
    robben
    basti
    kroos

    faces u just want to punch.

    the gawd was filled with glee watching modric and dem man finish those ***** last month

    demolished them
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    Do you guys rate Schneiderlin? Would you want him at Arsenal?
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    Benfica would be tougher than Napoli

    we won't ride on them like we did rafa and his men at the emirates thats for sure
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    (Original post by De Chirico)
    Do you guys rate Schneiderlin? Would you want him at Arsenal?
    Rate yes

    Want no


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    Well scrap that, team from same countries cannot be grouped together.
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    Worst case scenario would be dortmund, napoli and monaco in the same group
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    The group of death this year will be amazing.

    Imagine Bayern, Roma, PSG and Liverpool.

    Since Liverpool are pretty much confirmed to get at least a 3 way group of death(unless they get benfica/porto) then I think some other english group will get one.

    Anybody who's in a group with Madrid is peak though.
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    Monaco are quite interesting really I think they'll do quite well next year and even better in a few


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    (Original post by what is this)
    we should thank united for how bad they were this year - UEFA just announced that as they failed to make the CL at all, we stay in Pot ONE, otherwise we would have fallen into pot TWO with one of Porto, Real Madrid (and/or atheltico), , Barca, Dortmund, PSG in our group from pot one, and possibly, liverpool from pot three and Monaco from four .

    with that kind of draw, Thursdays were a dead cert - but now, we can revel in the "we're still in the Champions League until the 2L of the last 16 in February''

    As it is, we could still get - Us, Juve, Liverpool and Monaco....hmmm

    Pot I
    Real Madrid
    FC Barcelona
    Bayern Munich
    Chelsea
    Benfica
    Atletico Madrid
    *Arsenal
    *FC Porto

    Pot II
    Schalke
    Borussia Dortmund
    Juventus
    Paris Saint-Germain
    Shakhtar Donetsk
    Basel
    *Zenit St. Petersburg
    Manchester City

    Pot III
    *Bayer Leverkusen
    Olympiakos
    CSKA Moscow
    Ajax
    *Napoli
    Liverpool
    Sporting Lisbon
    Galatasaray

    Pot IV
    Anderlecht
    *Salzburg
    Roma
    *Steaua Bucarest
    *Celtic
    *BATE Borisov
    *TBA
    AS Monaco

    looking at Pot Two I'm pretty confident our days in Pot One are numbered - City, PSG and Juve will see to that if they make the quarters and we don't...
    Two teams from the same country can not be in the same group, so no - we will not have Liverpool.
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    (Original post by AR_95)
    Monaco are quite interesting really I think they'll do quite well next year and even better in a few


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    I think it'll take a few years for them to become a force, especially in the champions league. I think maybe by 2016/17 season. It'll probably be the same as city, when they broke the bank for players they didn't shoot up immediately.
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    (Original post by jam278)
    The group of death this year will be amazing.

    Imagine Bayern, Roma, PSG and Liverpool.

    Since Liverpool are pretty much confirmed to get at least a 3 way group of death(unless they get benfica/porto) then I hink some other english group will get one.

    Anybody who's in a group with Madrid is peak though.
    It would be brilliant to see how Liverpool do in the group of death lol. I hear time and time again that

    "Liverpool know how to win the big games"

    "Liverpool rise to the occasion"

    "Liverpool can beat anyone on a big night"

    With Liverpool, if they don't make the right signings this summer, they'll go back down. Even with the last tranfer window, the signings that they bought in really didn't settle in. The players that literally carried the team were the ones that already played for them. If the likes of Sterling, Sturridge or Suarez have a dip in form, or they get hit by injuries (likely to happen when you got champions league, premier league, FA & Capital one cup) then they'll seriously suffer and it could really diminish their morale.

    With United likely to strengthen next season, that could be a huge problem for them
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    (Original post by Zürich)
    Carlos Vela has given another interview saying he expects Arsenal to activate the buy back clause, and says he'd welcome it. I would say this is very likely to happen tbh.
    He's not going to the World Cup either so there isn't really an excuse not to get this done asap.
 
 
 
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