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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    And please remember the victims of the hate crime in Orlando and their loved ones who are bereaved.
    But why don't you come in every evening and tell us to remember the victims of other crime, which isn't necessarily news worthy, but just as horrible and tragic as what has happened in Orlando?
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    Tusk is giving Cameron a run for his money in the fruitcake of the year awards by saying that Brexit could cause the collapse of Western civilisation.

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    Tusk is giving Cameron a run for his money in the fruitcake of the year awards by saying that Brexit could cause the collapse of Western civilisation.

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    That just makes me want it to happen even more, although I thought we had no influence so how does that work?
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ith-lit-aeros/
    And they say it's just religious people that commit religiously-motivated hate crimes.
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ith-lit-aeros/
    And they say it's just religious people that commit religiously-motivated hate crimes.
    It was only banter, who hasn't crucified and burned someone?
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    Certainly fanatastic polling today with 4 polls (including ICM telephone) going for Leave and all above the 45% they averaged last week.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Certainly fanatastic polling today with 4 polls (including ICM telephone) going for Leave and all above the 45% they averaged last week.
    Were there not two phone polls? Regardless, even the phone polls are now showing leave leads

    Annoyingly Wikipedia includes that stupid poll that didn't bother with weighting

    I wonder when the bookies are going to start shifting more

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    Sharp fall in the implied probability of Britain voting remain from 78% last Thursday to 59% today from Betfair.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Were there not two phone polls? Regardless, even the phone polls are now showing leave leads

    Annoyingly Wikipedia includes that stupid poll that didn't bother with weighting

    I wonder when the bookies are going to start shifting more

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    Yeah, OBR.

    Probably they won't move too fast because the weekends Youguv and OBR are close enough that Remain would probably still win since the DK on the day will break for the status quo.

    Even if they break 2 to 1 for Remain though, last nights Youguv and ICM polls are sufficient that we Brexit.
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    The ECJ has striked down the EC challenge over benifits. That might help Remain a little.
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    Managed to convince my grandparents to vote remain.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Managed to convince my grandparents to vote remain.
    Good, have you seen the Murdoch quote?
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Good, have you seen the Murdoch quote?
    No?
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Managed to convince my grandparents to vote remain.
    I'll have to cancel that out by convincing mine to vote leave then
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    I'll have to cancel that out by convincing mine to vote leave then
    Grandparents are old, they'll be voting leave as a default.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    No?
    I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. 'That’s easy,' he replied. 'When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.'
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    I'll have to cancel that out by convincing mine to vote leave then
    Don't you dare.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Grandparents are old, they'll be voting leave as a default.
    Mine are actually sitting on the fence at the moment lol. Which is optimistic, considering they own a business that deals heavily with European customers.
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    (Original post by EricAteYou)
    The ECJ has striked down the EC challenge over benifits. That might help Remain a little.
    I do wonder though how much of this comes down to them playing politics, knowing it would boost remain

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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Certainly fanatastic polling today with 4 polls (including ICM telephone) going for Leave and all above the 45% they averaged last week.
    We're heading out.

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    The implied chances of brexit from the bookies is surging.

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