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    (Original post by Tegan006)
    Hi all,

    I'm torn between PGCE and schools direct at the moment so I was just wondering - the parts inbetween placement where you're based within the university for the theory side of things, how are those delivered? Do you have lectures or set work to do etc?
    Personally, i couldn't have done schools direct - the amount of support I've received from University tutors has kept me sane!

    I was on placement monday-thurs and then university on fridays. We have set lectures (professional and curriculum) studies on these days and then we are expected to do reading for the sessions, talk through various things etc. And then we have 3, 4,000 word essays to complete over the year.
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    (Original post by Samus2)
    Personally, i couldn't have done schools direct - the amount of support I've received from University tutors has kept me sane!
    This.

    To answer the question, I'm on a pgce and the uni bits are mostly seminar groups (around 20 people though so quite big) with some lectures. 9-4. Sounds strange from being in undergrad 6 hours a week but it easily gets filled.


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    (Original post by Tegan006)
    Hi all,

    I'm torn between PGCE and schools direct at the moment so I was just wondering - the parts inbetween placement where you're based within the university for the theory side of things, how are those delivered? Do you have lectures or set work to do etc?
    It will vary massively between providers. SD people accredited at the university I do a PGCE at (IoE) have identical structure and support to us on the PGCE. We have 2 5000 word essays throughout the year, a lot of tasks assessed by completion, lesson plans etc. to evidence the standards. As well as this, we have professional lectures for everyone training to be a teacher and subject sessions focusing on things in your specialism(s).
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    (Original post by Tegan006)
    Hi all,

    I'm torn between PGCE and schools direct at the moment so I was just wondering - the parts inbetween placement where you're based within the university for the theory side of things, how are those delivered? Do you have lectures or set work to do etc?
    At my universities there is a mix of taught foundation subjects and core subjects. There are also lectures on professional issues and lots of opportunities to visit schools and teach 1:1. You also have some assignments to do and workbooks to complete but I imagine this is similar for SD anyway.

    I forgot to add, both SD and 'core' PGCE students on my course are treated exactly the same way and taught the same. The only difference is in name.
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    At my uni the SD group are mixed in with us sometimes but they mostly have their wider context teaching delivered by their schools. We have some of it within school but we have additional seminars too so we have more contact and support from within the university.

    It's entirely dependent on where you go.
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    (Original post by Tegan006)
    Hi all,

    I'm torn between PGCE and schools direct at the moment so I was just wondering - the parts inbetween placement where you're based within the university for the theory side of things, how are those delivered? Do you have lectures or set work to do etc?
    Im on a PGCE. We're in classes two days and placement the other three (or suppose to be anyway).

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    Writing a critical evaluation of progress in four of the TS is the most awkward thing in the world.

    I'd much rather be writing my lesson plans!
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    (Original post by sunfowers01)
    Do you teach abroad or in the UK? Have you done a degree in TEFL?

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    If that is directed to me, I don't teach in the UK. I dropped QTS in my 3rd year (of a 4 year PE QTS course), due to falling out with my mentor and losing my confidence.... long story!

    After I graduated in 2012 I started working at an English language summer camp, loved it, and did the CELTA course (most known TEFL course).

    Now I teach at a small private language school in Lisbon, Portugal. I love living and teaching abroad.

    I don't want to rub it in, but what I love is all the things I love about teaching I have, the things I hated about teaching during my degree and teaching practises I don't have to do here.
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    (Original post by alabelle)
    Ok well I was teaching Y2, so we had to do time to five minutes. Time is funny though. Your ability groups could be totally messed up up because some children are taught it by their parents very early, others never even look at a clock. So you might very well have children who have a watch, who are working at a y2 level because they're fab.

    My problem with time was that I didn't break it down into enough steps. If I could do it again, I'd get the children to spend time looking at the clock, telling me things they notice. I'd break down exactly what I want them to do (which way does the clock go round, minute/hour hands etc.) and test them before starting the topic properly so I could reset my ability groups. I'd spend a lot more time covering the 'basics'.

    Sorry if any of this seems obvious, I just had a hard time teaching this. The children had a great deal of misconceptions and because I didn't break it down into tiny, achievable steps, these weren't corrected. Good luck! I'm sure it'll go better than it did for me, haha.
    Thanks. I started o'clock today and went really, really slowly with them, but they picked it up really well. Slowly but surely seems the way forward!

    It is so good having a two day week, but they are so tired and out of the school loop. One poor little dot fell asleep in the home corner!
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    (Original post by Sportycb)
    If that is directed to me, I don't teach in the UK. I dropped QTS in my 3rd year (of a 4 year PE QTS course), due to falling out with my mentor and losing my confidence.... long story!

    After I graduated in 2012 I started working at an English language summer camp, loved it, and did the CELTA course (most known TEFL course).

    Now I teach at a small private language school in Lisbon, Portugal. I love living and teaching abroad.

    I don't want to rub it in, but what I love is all the things I love about teaching I have, the things I hated about teaching during my degree and teaching practises I don't have to do here.
    Yes it was. Forgot to quote you in first message. Sounds good. How did you get your first job without the CELTA?

    I understand where you're coming from. I'm working in TEFL in Spain at the moment.

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    (Original post by sunfowers01)
    Yes it was. Forgot to quote you in first message. Sounds good. How did you get your first job without the CELTA?

    I understand where you're coming from. I'm working in TEFL in Spain at the moment.

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    Oh right we are similar I am sure. Did you get QTS in the UK? Also, have you done your CELTA?

    I got the first job due to the fact that I had a PE teaching degree and lots of experience coaching and PE teaching that they were happy to take me on a an 'Activity Leader'. I didn't start teaching English there obviously until I had my CELTA.
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    I wish I could teach abroad. I was highly interested in the JET programme in Japan. I wouldn't want to move away for that long though. I have commitments in this country for the time being.

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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    I wish I could teach abroad. I was highly interested in the JET programme in Japan. I wouldn't want to move away for that long though. I have commitments in this country for the time being.

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    Have you considered just getting a teaching job overseas for a few years? There can be huge financial benefits to it. My parents got jobs in the middle east for 5 years because salary is tax free and they give you a place to live so they could rent out their house here to pay the mortgage and just stash for a few years.
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    Hello! I am not sure if this question as been already asked.
    If you do a SD course with PGCE, is it harder than doing the PGCE on its own? I mean, do you have extra work?
    After all I've read I am scared of starting the course, but I need to choose first.


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    (Original post by Ratchit99)
    Have you considered just getting a teaching job overseas for a few years? There can be huge financial benefits to it. My parents got jobs in the middle east for 5 years because salary is tax free and they give you a place to live so they could rent out their house here to pay the mortgage and just stash for a few years.
    Whilst that sounds amazing and extremely beneficial, I'm not in a place to do anything like that at the moment. I'd like to in the future though.

    I'd definitely want to focus on Japan though, as I'm learning Japanese and love the culture there.

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    Are essays the worst part of the course for everyone else? I just need to finish this one and then I only have to worry about my dissertation after this but I think I make a right meal of freaking out over them.

    I think it's made worse because it's the exact same essay I wrote for my first essay except I'm looking at different standards so there's so much that I wish I could just lift and use over in this one too.

    And having another look at how much I did for TS8 during placement 1 just makes me more pissed about getting a requires improvement for it. Nobody else understands why it was RI either.

    *grumbles*
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    (Original post by ParadoxSocks)
    Are essays the worst part of the course for everyone else? I just need to finish this one and then I only have to worry about my dissertation after this but I think I make a right meal of freaking out over them.

    I think it's made worse because it's the exact same essay I wrote for my first essay except I'm looking at different standards so there's so much that I wish I could just lift and use over in this one too.

    And having another look at how much I did for TS8 during placement 1 just makes me more pissed about getting a requires improvement for it. Nobody else understands why it was RI either.

    *grumbles*
    Yeah, they're killing me! Thankfully I've only got the 3 4,000 word essays for the year. But, writing in an education discipline is so different than my original discipline and i've found that really tough!
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    (Original post by ParadoxSocks)
    Are essays the worst part of the course for everyone else? I just need to finish this one and then I only have to worry about my dissertation after this but I think I make a right meal of freaking out over them.

    I think it's made worse because it's the exact same essay I wrote for my first essay except I'm looking at different standards so there's so much that I wish I could just lift and use over in this one too.

    And having another look at how much I did for TS8 during placement 1 just makes me more pissed about getting a requires improvement for it. Nobody else understands why it was RI either.

    *grumbles*
    They're not the hardest part for me - I did my degree in Education so I'm pretty used to the format. They are difficult though. I just feel like my brain is mush! We've been allowed 2 days off to work on the assignment but apart from this we are in uni as normal. There isn't much time to think properly about what we're doing. At the moment I have 1,000 words and just five days to add 4,000 words to it. I'd normally spend much more time on an assignment.
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    (Original post by Samus2)
    Yeah, they're killing me! Thankfully I've only got the 3 4,000 word essays for the year. But, writing in an education discipline is so different than my original discipline and i've found that really tough!
    You're computing too, right? I find moving from that very dry essay style to being all mushy and feely really really hard.

    (Original post by alabelle)
    They're not the hardest part for me - I did my degree in Education so I'm pretty used to the format. They are difficult though. I just feel like my brain is mush! We've been allowed 2 days off to work on the assignment but apart from this we are in uni as normal. There isn't much time to think properly about what we're doing. At the moment I have 1,000 words and just five days to add 4,000 words to it. I'd normally spend much more time on an assignment.
    I've written 2500 since yesterday morning when I started and the essay is due at 4 today. I really don't help myself :/ I think the main issue really is time because there really isn't enough of it when juggling a full time job on top of the essays. I'm glad they put the deadline in half term but at the same time I've been prepping for the 9 new classes I pick up next week, plus the 5 others I'm already teaching. I need more days
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    (Original post by ParadoxSocks)
    You're computing too, right? I find moving from that very dry essay style to being all mushy and feely really really hard.



    I've written 2500 since yesterday morning when I started and the essay is due at 4 today. I really don't help myself :/ I think the main issue really is time because there really isn't enough of it when juggling a full time job on top of the essays. I'm glad they put the deadline in half term but at the same time I've been prepping for the 9 new classes I pick up next week, plus the 5 others I'm already teaching. I need more days
    History, whilst it's a written subject, the education format is just difficult. And I hate Harvard referencing too so my referencing takes me ages!

    How long does /it need to be?
 
 
 
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