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    (Original post by rainbowworld)
    I'm currently doing work experience in a year one class for two weeks, just completed my second day and the teacher asked what I wanted to do over the next two weeks - she basically said she will try and let me do anything I want to do if I let her know. From tomorrow she's going to start giving me the other TA's groups for numeracy and literacy and said I could read the story at the end of the day, but I couldn't really think of anything else in particular to ask to do. Just wondered if anyone could suggest anything I should try and do, or anything that would have been useful to have experience of for interviews etc? As I know some of you have past experience of PGCE interviews etc and I just want to make the most of this experience as I don't have that much experience in mainstream classes. Should I ask to take a whole class starter session or something?
    Some things I found helpful were:

    -Follow a child for a day, or an afternoon. Obviously try to make it subtle but it gives a good overview of what school is like for that child, ESP in free play time, plus you can really learn a lot about the child which gives you lots to think about!

    -Talk to the children about what they do. If it was later in the year I'd say go through a book/folder of theirs and let them narrate it to you. However at this point in the year I'd maybe do a general chat interview thing about school... Talk to then about what they like about school, what they do at playtime, their friends, etc. They might like to draw a picture or a mapof it to show you. Again just trying to get to know the child really, it then helps you understand and empathise with children more.

    -Perhaps you could take a guided reading group? Or take a few children out to go over something, maybe a maths idea they didn't get. Though that may be what the teacher is imagining with the[TA stuff anyway!

    -Could you help making/contributing to a display (if they have a working wall add bits to it)?

    What you have sounds like a nice lot of experience and it's nice that you get a chance to work with the children to build confidence etc. Plus gives teacher good stuff for your reference! So I wouldn't worry thinking you aren't doing enough, many people do only observation. I'd use the rest of your time to observe and make notes as you will forget everything otherwise! And in free play time play with the children and practice asking interesting probing questions as that's a habit that needs to be learned... look up dialogic talk. Asking questions that lead the child to explore an idea further rather than simple yes no questions and you talking most (apologies if you already know all about this!!!).


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    (Original post by Airfairy)
    What did you apply for last year, and what is your degree in?
    I applied for the Secondary Social Science courses, there are only 3 I think and I interviewed for 2 of them.

    My degree is Sociology and Politics 2:1 xx
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    I applied for the Secondary Social Science courses, there are only 3 I think and I interviewed for 2 of them.

    My degree is Sociology and Politics 2:1 xx
    Ah, I see! I was interested in social science - the one at man met. How much experience did you have last year? Good luck with this years application!

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    So I started my classroom observations today and really enjoyed it! I get on nicely with all of the teacher's I've met and had some great advice from some of them already. It was nice to get in the environment, though I think it is going to take me a while to get used to being called "Miss"!

    I particularly enjoyed helping out in Year 8 Gothic/horror writing work, the kids enjoyed it and put a lot of effort into it!

    However, I was amazed by the difference in ability levels within a year group. I had expected a huge gap, but it is bigger than I could have anticipated, so I can definitely understand why teaching is such a challenge. I'm going back next week, and I'm looking forward to it, which must be a good sign!
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    Hi thread,

    I'm going to be applying for 2014 entry, for Primary Education or Early Years (I'm still trying to work out which universities offer those courses- I currently live in York and don't want to go to a uni much further away than that ).

    I've volunteered with year 3 and am just coming to the end of a week with Reception. So far my experience has made me realise I don't want to work with either year 3 or Reception! (This doesn't mean I've been put off doing a PGCE- just that what I want to focus on is slightly above the ability level of Reception and slightly below that of year 3- I'm going to try and get some experience with a year 1/2 class next if possible)
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    (Original post by kuroshokora)
    Hi thread,

    I'm going to be applying for 2014 entry, for Primary Education or Early Years (I'm still trying to work out which universities offer those courses- I currently live in York and don't want to go to a uni much further away than that ).

    I've volunteered with year 3 and am just coming to the end of a week with Reception. So far my experience has made me realise I don't want to work with either year 3 or Reception! (This doesn't mean I've been put off doing a PGCE- just that what I want to focus on is slightly above the ability level of Reception and slightly below that of year 3- I'm going to try and get some experience with a year 1/2 class next if possible)
    Bear in mind that most PGCEs will cover more than just key stage one so you will have to be happy to do others too even if they aren't your favourite.

    Was it just the ability that you didn't like? If so, remember that reception have just started and many of them will be new to being in education. By the end of the year it will be completely different (maybe take a look at "Development matters in the eyfs" which lists typical development for a child, especially the "early learning goals" for each area as these are where children are "expected" to be at the end of reception.


    On the other hand if its the structure that put you off (based on Chns interests, play based etc) then, while I'd encourage you to look in to why that structure is used (as it can also be great for key stage 1) early years may not be for you.

    Good luck with your KS1 experience, they are lovely and after early years seem so grown up!!!

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    (Original post by LaurieLee)
    So I started my classroom observations today and really enjoyed it! I get on nicely with all of the teacher's I've met and had some great advice from some of them already. It was nice to get in the environment, though I think it is going to take me a while to get used to being called "Miss"!

    I particularly enjoyed helping out in Year 8 Gothic/horror writing work, the kids enjoyed it and put a lot of effort into it!

    However, I was amazed by the difference in ability levels within a year group. I had expected a huge gap, but it is bigger than I could have anticipated, so I can definitely understand why teaching is such a challenge. I'm going back next week, and I'm looking forward to it, which must be a good sign!
    I just had the same thing yesterday and I agree, it was really weird when students were calling me Sir!
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    (Original post by kuroshokora)
    Hi thread,

    I'm going to be applying for 2014 entry, for Primary Education or Early Years (I'm still trying to work out which universities offer those courses- I currently live in York and don't want to go to a uni much further away than that ).

    I've volunteered with year 3 and am just coming to the end of a week with Reception. So far my experience has made me realise I don't want to work with either year 3 or Reception! (This doesn't mean I've been put off doing a PGCE- just that what I want to focus on is slightly above the ability level of Reception and slightly below that of year 3- I'm going to try and get some experience with a year 1/2 class next if possible)
    As someone else said, you'll have to do a placement in the previous or following key stage, no matter your preference, so don't go in thinking you can pick and choose the specific year group. I'm training just now and while my main placement will be in KS2, a) I have no control over WHERE in KS2, and b) I'm in year one just now for my first assessed placement, regardless of my personal preferences.

    So even if your final placement was going to be in Y1/2, you would also have to do a placement in either early years/nursery or KS2.

    While working you also don't always have control over exactly where you end up. As staffing needs change you may well be moved to a different year group than that which you originally joined the school to teach.
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    Hi all, I am just curious on whether or not anyone has the same frustrations as me and if anyone can help... I am currently sitting a gap year (and saving up as much as possible from a full time job as it's not possible to even work part time when doing a PGCE...) as last year my application for PGCE Primary did not work out for various reasons but basically being underprepared. I now have sorted myself out and have GCSE's at grade C, a CRB check, both the QTS skills tests passed, a degree and am currently doing work experience. But there is still one thing in my way- the interview day tests. I find them so frustrating as I have already proven my maths ability by completing the other test! Also, the universities all promise that the tests are "easier than the skills tests" (which are bloody hard) and in my experience, I think that is bull... and in fact think they are harder and the time limits (usually 30 mins) more compressed. Does anyone share my issues? Also, as we cannot escape this issue, does anyone know any links where you can find example tests (OF THE INTERVIEW DAY TESTS NOT THE QTS TESTS) so that I can be more prepared? Or any ideas? I wish getting into teaching was easier, I understand why it isn't but I am so close and so far from my childhood dream.. I have seen fellow student wannabe teachers give up and I think this difficulty is a disgrace. :mad: THANK YOU X
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    (Original post by Rachael Brown)
    Hi all, I am just curious on whether or not anyone has the same frustrations as me and if anyone can help... I am currently sitting a gap year (and saving up as much as possible from a full time job as it's not possible to even work part time when doing a PGCE...) as last year my application for PGCE Primary did not work out for various reasons but basically being underprepared. I now have sorted myself out and have GCSE's at grade C, a CRB check, both the QTS skills tests passed, a degree and am currently doing work experience. But there is still one thing in my way- the interview day tests. I find them so frustrating as I have already proven my maths ability by completing the other test! Also, the universities all promise that the tests are "easier than the skills tests" (which are bloody hard) and in my experience, I think that is bull... and in fact think they are harder and the time limits (usually 30 mins) more compressed. Does anyone share my issues? Also, as we cannot escape this issue, does anyone know any links where you can find example tests (OF THE INTERVIEW DAY TESTS NOT THE QTS TESTS) so that I can be more prepared? Or any ideas? I wish getting into teaching was easier, I understand why it isn't but I am so close and so far from my childhood dream.. I have seen fellow student wannabe teachers give up and I think this difficulty is a disgrace. :mad: THANK YOU X
    The best thing you can do is talk to other people on here who are applying to the same unis as you, as they will know more specifically about the tests your uni will use.

    Every uni is different. My uni tested maths ability once you were on the course, and they offered support to develop your skills and understanding (they wanted you to understand the maths not just memorise methods). The only test on the interview day was answering a couple of written questions which were mainly about understanding a text to do with teaching, rather than literacy skills. And there was no time limit other than the fact you had to hand it in by the end of the interview morning! So as you can see it varies greatly.

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    Hi all!
    I've just completed two full weeks at a local primary school - which I loved! I've updated my blog with all the details HERE!

    Can't wait to get back
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    Hi everyone

    I'm wanting to apply for a PGCE in Secondary English this November. However I'm a little confused about how to apply. Does anyone know if we do have to wait until November 1st to even be able to register on the UCAS Teacher Training site or can that be done beforehand? Someone told me to register on UCAS like we did when we were applying for University, but the application form didn't look right as it gives you 5 choices to be able to apply to and space for only one reference. I know that you can't send off your application until courses become open on November 1st but I wasn't sure if we could at least start filling in our applications now. I've read that it can take up to 2 weeks for your referees to add a reference and your application doesn't get sent off until they do, and I'm sure most PGCE courses are only open for 2 weeks to apply to them!

    Sorry if none of this makes sense, I'm just a bit confused and want to make sure I'm doing the right thing! Thanks!
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    Hi everyone

    I'm wanting to apply for a PGCE in Secondary English this November. However I'm a little confused about how to apply. Does anyone know if we do have to wait until November 1st to even be able to register on the UCAS Teacher Training site or can that be done beforehand? Someone told me to register on UCAS like we did when we were applying for University, but the application form didn't look right as it gives you 5 choices to be able to apply to and space for only one reference. I know that you can't send off your application until courses become open on November 1st but I wasn't sure if we could at least start filling in our applications now. I've read that it can take up to 2 weeks for your referees to add a reference and your application doesn't get sent off until they do, and I'm sure most PGCE courses are only open for 2 weeks to apply to them!

    Sorry if none of this makes sense, I'm just a bit confused and want to make sure I'm doing the right thing! Thanks!
    I wouldn't worry about starting up the form, the form itself should take very little time to fill in. The things that will take a while will be personal statement and like you said references. So I would just write your PS, make sure you have your qualification certificates handy, ensure you know your uni choices and alert your referees that the date is nearing. Hopefully they will write it beforehand and when the request comes through all they will have to do is add it.

    Also, I can't confirm that secondary is the same as primary but for primary applications usually stay open until the course is full. Unless they have changed it. Either way, I can't imagine it will be only 2 weeks... If it is, what are they thinking?!?!

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    (Original post by Cami2013)
    Hi everyone

    I'm wanting to apply for a PGCE in Secondary English this November. However I'm a little confused about how to apply. Does anyone know if we do have to wait until November 1st to even be able to register on the UCAS Teacher Training site or can that be done beforehand? Someone told me to register on UCAS like we did when we were applying for University, but the application form didn't look right as it gives you 5 choices to be able to apply to and space for only one reference. I know that you can't send off your application until courses become open on November 1st but I wasn't sure if we could at least start filling in our applications now. I've read that it can take up to 2 weeks for your referees to add a reference and your application doesn't get sent off until they do, and I'm sure most PGCE courses are only open for 2 weeks to apply to them!

    Sorry if none of this makes sense, I'm just a bit confused and want to make sure I'm doing the right thing! Thanks!
    Whilst secondary english DOES fill up fast, its not quite 2 weeks. Thats a little bit exaggerated there :P Places started to fill last year after about a month and a half. The only thing you can do is to inform your referee of when the applications open and urge them to complete it quickly. Advanced notice means they'll be looking out for it and will hopefully mean they do it right away if you tell them how crucial it is.
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    Quick question -

    I'm sure some of you here would have written your personal statement already. Do we include details of work exp and what we learnt from it in the ps? Just on UCAS it says there is separate section for this. So in that case do you not mention exp at all on the ps? How much length do you get in this separate section to talk about exp?

    I want to write it next week, so don't want to rant on about exp when I shouldn't in that statement.


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    Quick question -

    I'm sure some of you here would have written your personal statement already. Do we include details of work exp and what we learnt from it in the ps? Just on UCAS it says there is separate section for this. So in that case do you not mention exp at all on the ps? How much length do you get in this separate section to talk about exp?

    I want to write it next week, so don't want to rant on about exp when I shouldn't in that statement.


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    I used the extra section to write the factual details- when, where, for how long, what ages and my responsibility (eg. Observational, assisting teacher etc). I kind of used that section as a way to communicate that information without using up vital characters of the ps.

    The actual what I learnt from the experience, how it helped my understanding etc I kept in the PS since I felt that is vital to the information I need to include. Your PS should include all your best selling points and taking something from your experience is key to that.

    Not sure if that's the best way to do it but I got on so my uni (uea) must have thought it was ok.


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    (Original post by Shelly_x)
    Whilst secondary english DOES fill up fast, its not quite 2 weeks. Thats a little bit exaggerated there :P Places started to fill last year after about a month and a half. The only thing you can do is to inform your referee of when the applications open and urge them to complete it quickly. Advanced notice means they'll be looking out for it and will hopefully mean they do it right away if you tell them how crucial it is.
    Hi, thanks for your reply!

    Well I was under the impression it was only open for 2 weeks because I read it on the UCAS Apply 1 information site itself: http://www.ucas.com/how-it-all-works...aining/apply-1

    It says: 'When a trainging programme is opened for the first time, it stays open for a minimum of two weeks. If they don't fill all their places the first time they open their programme, it might be open again later, but not definitely, and maybe only briefly.'

    So obviously this information has made me want to get my application sent off as soon as possible, but even if I've filled everything in it doesn't get sent off until the referees have filled in their part. I have let both of them know already so they do know they will be asked for one and I think I'll also email a reminder to them a week before as well.

    But basically what I want to know is that is everyone just applying from November 1st then? You don't apply any earlier than that?

    Thank you, and sorry I just want to make sure I get everything done right!
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    Hi, thanks for your reply!

    Well I was under the impression it was only open for 2 weeks because I read it on the UCAS Apply 1 information site itself: http://www.ucas.com/how-it-all-works...aining/apply-1

    It says: 'When a trainging programme is opened for the first time, it stays open for a minimum of two weeks. If they don't fill all their places the first time they open their programme, it might be open again later, but not definitely, and maybe only briefly.'

    So obviously this information has made me want to get my application sent off as soon as possible, but even if I've filled everything in it doesn't get sent off until the referees have filled in their part. I have let both of them know already so they do know they will be asked for one and I think I'll also email a reminder to them a week before as well.

    But basically what I want to know is that is everyone just applying from November 1st then? You don't apply any earlier than that?

    Thank you, and sorry I just want to make sure I get everything done right!
    Hm, I hadn't even that info. Apply on nov 1st, then you'll have the best chance either way. That is the earliest applications will open yes.
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    (Original post by Cami2013)
    Hi, thanks for your reply!

    Well I was under the impression it was only open for 2 weeks because I read it on the UCAS Apply 1 information site itself: http://www.ucas.com/how-it-all-works...aining/apply-1

    It says: 'When a trainging programme is opened for the first time, it stays open for a minimum of two weeks. If they don't fill all their places the first time they open their programme, it might be open again later, but not definitely, and maybe only briefly.'

    So obviously this information has made me want to get my application sent off as soon as possible, but even if I've filled everything in it doesn't get sent off until the referees have filled in their part. I have let both of them know already so they do know they will be asked for one and I think I'll also email a reminder to them a week before as well.

    But basically what I want to know is that is everyone just applying from November 1st then? You don't apply any earlier than that?

    Thank you, and sorry I just want to make sure I get everything done right!
    I don't think that usually means anything though. It's just that if the uni somehow finds all their suitable applicants in one week they still have to stay open for another week.

    While applying asap is definitely a good idea, chances are the course will stay open on the first run for longer than that (if only so they can get a gauge of applicants to make a more informed choice of who to invite to interview). Plus I would hope your referee will send the reference within two weeks anyway.

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    It's a bit of a strange system because it says that not all unis open at the same time. This means if one of my choices opens at a different time I can't apply there. I don't know what a uni would have to gain by opening at a different time.

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