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    (Original post by CraigWM)
    Deeney shouldn't have gone in but does the ball. Its the keeper rugby tackling Deeney that should probably make it a penalty. Quality of video probably doesn't do justice as even the club Twitter went berserk at the decision.
    Really? Doesn't look like he gets the ball at all. No change in speed or direction of the ball, which suggests nothing touched it.

    And it's hardly a rugby tackle. Deeney was between the keeper's legs and then tried to get up. Obviously the keeper's going to fall over (what with him being tangled up) and it's purely an accident Deeney went over too. One of those "6 of one, half a dozen of the other" incidents, in my opinion.

    It is a poor camera angle though. Might be a different case if I saw it side on.
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    League One
    Leyton Orient v Brentford 12:15
    Bradford v Gillingham 15:00
    Bristol City v Swindon 15:00
    Carlisle v Stevenage 15:00
    Crawley v Colchester 15:00
    Crewe v Oldham 15:00
    MK Dons v Peterborough 15:00
    Rotherham v Walsall 15:00
    Tranmere v Notts County 15:00
    Wolves v Shrewsbury 15:00

    Sun 16 Mar
    Coventry v Port Vale 15:00
    Big game for the final play-off place in League One - I'm going back to MK for it.
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    Massive game for Brentford too. I'm going to be a mess between 12.15pm and 2pm today.
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    Hoping Bolton can keep hunting down Blackburn with a win today. Only realistic goal for the rest of the season is to finish above them.
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    (Original post by Scott129)
    Really? Doesn't look like he gets the ball at all. No change in speed or direction of the ball, which suggests nothing touched it.

    And it's hardly a rugby tackle. Deeney was between the keeper's legs and then tried to get up. Obviously the keeper's going to fall over (what with him being tangled up) and it's purely an accident Deeney went over too. One of those "6 of one, half a dozen of the other" incidents, in my opinion.

    It is a poor camera angle though. Might be a different case if I saw it side on.
    Yeah, I'm quite sure the camera angle doesn't do it justice. Dickov himself said his keeper should have been sent off as well as most the Donny fans.

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    And Brentford win a big game...

    In all seriousness a good result for us
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    Leeds can't hold a fecking lead. Although I'd definitely take a point at Turf Moor, which now seems out of reach.
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    Bounced back from our last two matches that were losses with a win against Birmingham. I think we'll be safe now as it would require a massive **** up on our behalf.
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    (Original post by hskjlclcn)
    And Brentford win a big game...

    In all seriousness a good result for us
    Not as good a result for you as your draw is for us!
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    A very concise piece here on why so many Coventry fans have nought but contempt for football's authorities:

    http://footballleagueworld.com/2014/...s-anyone-care/
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    And the FL season awards have happened - Championship Player and young player - Danny Ings & Will Hughes. Don't necessarily agree with Ings , Drinkwater has been absolutely key to the best side in the league, should be his award, but I can see why it's gone to Ings - an absolute lorryload of goals taking a midtable side to championship contenders, quite a player, but Will Hughes? Most over-rated player I've ever seen.
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    (Original post by Stiff Little Fingers)
    And the FL season awards have happened - Championship Player and young player - Danny Ings & Will Hughes. Don't necessarily agree with Ings , Drinkwater has been absolutely key to the best side in the league, should be his award, but I can see why it's gone to Ings - an absolute lorryload of goals taking a midtable side to championship contenders, quite a player, but Will Hughes? Most over-rated player I've ever seen.
    Was there a worst owners' award? How about an award for most incompetent governing body?

    On a serious note, nice to see Franck Moussa get goal of the year. One crumb of comfort from this shambles of a season.


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    (Original post by Stiff Little Fingers)
    And the FL season awards have happened - Championship Player and young player - Danny Ings & Will Hughes. Don't necessarily agree with Ings , Drinkwater has been absolutely key to the best side in the league, should be his award, but I can see why it's gone to Ings - an absolute lorryload of goals taking a midtable side to championship contenders, quite a player, but Will Hughes? Most over-rated player I've ever seen.
    Oops, bitter much? :rolleyes:

    In all seriousness, the only reason you're saying he doesn't deserve it is because he never performs in the big games (the Forests and Leicesters), the only games of ours you probably see (fairly confident in saying that too).

    I also think the type of player he is put him at an advantage. There are aren't many English ball-players in the Spanish CAM mold. Young CBs, on the other hand, are a dime a dozen over here.

    As for Ings, you've contradicted yourself by giving the exact reason he got the award, in that he carries a mid-table team. Drinkwater's a good player in a very good team. I'm sure you'd still be alright though if he was out injured. Burnley without Ings, I'm not so sure.
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    Failing to see how Deeney's goal wasn't goal of the year. By no means a wonder strike but well, y'know.
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    (Original post by Scott129)
    Oops, bitter much? :rolleyes:

    In all seriousness, the only reason you're saying he doesn't deserve it is because he never performs in the big games (the Forests and Leicesters), the only games of ours you probably see (fairly confident in saying that too).

    I also think the type of player he is put him at an advantage. There are aren't many English ball-players in the Spanish CAM mold. Young CBs, on the other hand, are a dime a dozen over here.

    As for Ings, you've contradicted yourself by giving the exact reason he got the award, in that he carries a mid-table team. Drinkwater's a good player in a very good team. I'm sure you'd still be alright though if he was out injured. Burnley without Ings, I'm not so sure.
    Being top of the league and being bankrolled to the hilt isn't enough for SLF obviously. Poor guy, Leicester fans have so much to complain about right now.


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    (Original post by CraigWM)
    Failing to see how Deeney's goal wasn't goal of the year. By no means a wonder strike but well, y'know.
    Considering how much the FL has shafted us awarding us goal of the year was the least they could do. Not seen Deeney's effort however Moussa's was quite a peach.


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    (Original post by Scott129)
    Oops, bitter much? :rolleyes:

    In all seriousness, the only reason you're saying he doesn't deserve it is because he never performs in the big games (the Forests and Leicesters), the only games of ours you probably see (fairly confident in saying that too).

    I also think the type of player he is put him at an advantage. There are aren't many English ball-players in the Spanish CAM mold. Young CBs, on the other hand, are a dime a dozen over here.

    As for Ings, you've contradicted yourself by giving the exact reason he got the award, in that he carries a mid-table team. Drinkwater's a good player in a very good team. I'm sure you'd still be alright though if he was out injured. Burnley without Ings, I'm not so sure.
    True I've only seen him in the big games, but not performing in those is surely a decent indicator that he shouldn't have got it? Being a flat-track bully and a good player are two entirely different things, if he only performs against lesser sides then he probably isn't that good a player, just benefited by inferior opposition.

    I'd agree with that, but even so, has he been the best young player in the FL (in all positions) I'd argue not. On the shortlist (Hughes, Moore, Pritchard) it should surely go to Pritchard - 5 goals and 8 assists and arguably Swindons key player. As for hughes, he's not even the best player in the derby midfield (Why Bryson wasn't in the running for player of the season I don't know).

    However, goals shouldn't be the be all and end all when deciding the award - it's like commentators just giving the MoTM award to whoever scored the most, it's just lazy work. I can't begrudge it him, he's had a terrific season, but Drinkwater has been the better player, no doubt, and that's surely the point of this award. I'd disagree with that completely as well. Drinkwater's form disappeared about January last season, and with it, we collapsed. He is absolutely crucial to our success.
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    No fancy awards down in here in Hillsborough, excluding PFA player in the community to Reda Johnson. Lovely chap and a cult hero who donated 5k of his wages on the spot to help buy sensory equipment for a school specialising in disabilities.
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    (Original post by Stiff Little Fingers)
    True I've only seen him in the big games, but not performing in those is surely a decent indicator that he shouldn't have got it? Being a flat-track bully and a good player are two entirely different things, if he only performs against lesser sides then he probably isn't that good a player, just benefited by inferior opposition.

    I'd agree with that, but even so, has he been the best young player in the FL (in all positions) I'd argue not. On the shortlist (Hughes, Moore, Pritchard) it should surely go to Pritchard - 5 goals and 8 assists and arguably Swindons key player. As for hughes, he's not even the best player in the derby midfield (Why Bryson wasn't in the running for player of the season I don't know).

    However, goals shouldn't be the be all and end all when deciding the award - it's like commentators just giving the MoTM award to whoever scored the most, it's just lazy work. I can't begrudge it him, he's had a terrific season, but Drinkwater has been the better player, no doubt, and that's surely the point of this award. I'd disagree with that completely as well. Drinkwater's form disappeared about January last season, and with it, we collapsed. He is absolutely crucial to our success.
    Well you can't really judge him then, can you? At the end of the day, he's 18 years old, playing at the top end of the Championship and also playing well in 80-90% of the games. We really do miss him when he's out as we have a complete lack of creativity in midfield (Bryson and Hendrick work hard but technically aren't great), which he may well be for the Forest game on Saturday.

    The hype around him certainly doesn't help either. Constantly being touted as Steven Gerrard's replacement when that's not his game at all leads to a lot of people being underwhelmed when they finally see him. You need to understand his game and look out for the little things that he does so well. Don't go expecting him to make 70 yard passes or go dancing through 3 players before curling it in. That's just not what he does.

    I wouldn't have Bryson down as a nomination personally as I'm not a massive fan. As I said, he works hard and scores goals but he doesn't do anything particularly better than many other Championship midfielders. Add that to the fact he hasn't scored in a good month or two and he doesn't contribute much at all nowadays. He put in one of the worst performances I've ever seen against Bolton the other week too. His stats are really padded out by an extended purple patch, especially in the goals tally.

    Goals win games unfortunately and that's the main factor strikers are judged on. As him and Drinkwater play different positions, you have to work out the effect each one has had on their team. In my reckoning (and, I guess, the panel that decides these awards), Burnley would be much worse off without Ings than you would be without Drinkwater.
 
 
 
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