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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Because you are having close to your worst season in premier league history and none of those teams actually look like dropping their level (unlike in 14/15 where everyone challenging for top 4 was bad besides one club)
    Well, Liverpool were always going to improve for this year. Chelseas revival is nothing short of miraculous but both Chelsea and Liverpool are clearly benefiting from no Europe. Man City have found a formation to harness their attacking threat but are overreliant on Fernandinho and still haven't sorted out the defence. Spurs I think will struggle, their squad is a bit on the thin side and Kane/Janssen ain't scoring. Arsenal look much improved with Ozil in good form but there dip usually comes around soon.

    Out of our defeats, the City game was a credit to Man City who were superb. Liverpool couldn't break us down. Chelsea are red-hot. Watford and Stoke were classic poor performances where you need to take 3 points (everyone has these games) We should have massacred Burnley. The big factor is the big games. We beat Arsenal and we're back in it IMO
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    Well, Liverpool were always going to improve for this year. Chelseas revival is nothing short of miraculous but both Chelsea and Liverpool are clearly benefiting from no Europe. Man City have found a formation to harness their attacking threat but are overreliant on Fernandinho and still haven't sorted out the defence. Spurs I think will struggle, their squad is a bit on the thin side and Kane/Janssen ain't scoring. Arsenal look much improved with Ozil in good form but there dip usually comes around soon.

    Out of our defeats, the City game was a credit to Man City who were superb. Liverpool couldn't break us down. Chelsea are red-hot. Watford and Stoke were classic poor performances where you need to take 3 points (everyone has these games) We should have massacred Burnley. The big factor is the big games. We beat Arsenal and we're back in it IMO
    Arsenal arent losing top 4 or city. Chelseas revival was just players playing at their normal level. Spurs I expect to struggle but I never expected them to get top 4. Kane will hit form too, he always heats up around this time anyway but its not enough obviously.

    Liverpool are probably challenging for the title and seems like Chelsea too. so who out of the 4 clubs are you likely to displace?

    Take it this way, you have to beat Arsenal(in a november fixture) to have any chance of top 4. not saying you cant do it but that looks daunting if you lose youre 9 points off...

    With the way both teams are playing you'd expect arsenal to steamroll you anyway(although it's old trafford which is their standard bogey ground)
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Arsenal arent losing top 4 or city. Chelseas revival was just players playing at their normal level. Spurs I expect to struggle but I never expected them to get top 4. Kane will hit form too, he always heats up around this time anyway but its not enough obviously.

    Liverpool are probably challenging for the title and seems like Chelsea too. so who out of the 4 clubs are you likely to displace?

    Take it this way, you have to beat Arsenal(in a november fixture) to have any chance of top 4. not saying you cant do it but that looks daunting if you lose youre 9 points off...
    If it looks like top 4's out of reach you know he's gonna go all out for the Europa.
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    If it looks like top 4's out of reach you know he's gonna go all out for the Europa.
    Ask klopp how that went?

    I'd personally tank games in the league so I don't get europa though. mou will probably go all out for cups though so you'll be in europa league at least.
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    Ask klopp how that went?

    I'd personally tank games in the league so I don't get europa though. mou will probably go all out for cups though so you'll be in europa league at least.
    Competition will be easier.

    Plus we have a better squad than them.
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    Competition will be easier.

    Plus we have a better squad than them.
    You guys might not even get out of your group ffs and you're talking about winning the competition. think about that. a juve side that got 102 points in their league didn't win it and spurs are most likely joining you in the competition... its not as simple as you think.

    Villareal I think have a good chance of beating you over two legs.
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    (Original post by bammy jastard 27)
    You guys might not even get out of your group ffs and you're talking about winning the competition. think about that. a juve side that got 102 points in their league didn't win it and spurs are most likely joining you in the competition... its not as simple as you think.

    Villareal I think have a good chance of beating you over two legs.
    I'm saying compared to last year (no Sevilla who always win it and no Dortmund), there's already 2 teams out of the competition who would have beaten us, so our chances already look better. Plus, if we are in that position where top 4s out of our reach then he's not gonna be playing half-arsed teams; he'll go all in.

    If we don't get out of the group then lol.
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    [QUOTE=bammy jastard 27;68433974]

    much football

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    Where do you think Griezzman goes next?

    World class strikers generally move on from Atleti, and they are happy to sell if they get a huge fee. Being at Atleti, I don't think he would go Real, so maybe Barca/ Bayern? Bayern is probably a sideways move.

    Next tier down would Juve (but they have Dybala/ Higuain), PSG (lel), or United, maybe Chelsea. You think he would link up with his boy Pogba in Manchester? If not, where do you think he moves next, or do you think he sees his career out at Atleti?
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    (Original post by swirly)
    Next tier down would Juve (but they have Dybala/ Higuain), PSG (lel), or United, maybe Chelsea. You think he would link up with his boy Pogba in Manchester? If not, where do you think he moves next, or do you think he sees his career out at Atleti?


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    ****ing top quality analysis there Geoff
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    Just to add, Griezmann also said publicly his dream club is Man Utd

    If we knock on Atleti's door with major ££ he will come to Utd. Not to mention his boys Martial + Pogba are here too.
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    (Original post by trapking)
    Just to add, Griezmann also said publicly his dream club is Man Utd

    If we knock on Atleti's door with major ££ he will come to Utd. Not to mention his boys Martial + Pogba are here too.
    Imagine getting Griezmann and Varane in 2017

    Woodward to spend £200 million every summer :coma:
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    (Original post by swirly)
    Imagine getting Griezmann and Varane in 2017

    Woodward to spend £200 million every summer :coma:
    Griezzman, Varane, Aurier & Felipe Anderson in the summer transfer window. Then put Mkhitaryan in #10 and have the wingers as Felipe Anderson and Martial.

    and this January just sign Kostas Manolas from Roma <3

    Imagine having....

    Shaw Varane Bailly Aurier as the defensive line >>>>> :coma:
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    (Original post by trapking)
    Griezzman, Varane, Aurier & Felipe Anderson in the summer transfer window. Then put Mkhitaryan in #10 and have the wingers as Felipe Anderson and Martial.

    and this January just sign Kostas Manolas from Roma <3

    Imagine having....

    Shaw Varane Bailly Aurier as the defensive line >>>>> :coma:
    Think Mkhi is leaving in Jan

    Imagine Woodward making a cheeky Mkhi plus 80 million bid for Reus on deadline day.
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    (Original post by trapking)
    Griezzman, Varane, Aurier & Felipe Anderson in the summer transfer window. Then put Mkhitaryan in #10 and have the wingers as Felipe Anderson and Martial.

    and this January just sign Kostas Manolas from Roma <3

    Imagine having....

    Shaw Varane Bailly Aurier as the defensive line >>>>> :coma:
    Still have a fetish for Felipe anderson for no apparent reason?
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    (Original post by Dirtybit)
    Still have a fetish for Felipe anderson for no apparent reason?
    He's got so much potential (much more than Memphis) and he's only 23. His style of play is a cross between Coutinho and Neymar and he's fast likes to run with the ball and dribble. I would have preferred Gabriel Jesus but City stole him.

    (Original post by swirly)
    Think Mkhi is leaving in Jan

    Imagine Woodward making a cheeky Mkhi plus 80 million bid for Reus on deadline day.
    I would be hella mad if that happened ...he can literally be our very own Ozil
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    (Original post by Rk2k14)
    If Zlatan could finish no one would be rambling on about this. He's cost us minimum 6 points on his own.
    Strikers. Miss. Chances. There is no striker in the world for which P(score) = 1 for literally any chance. And when P(x) < 1, you will naturally get some unlucky periods.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Strikers. Miss. Chances. There is no striker in the world for which P(score) = 1 for literally any chance. And when P(x) < 1, you will naturally get some unlucky periods.
    Prove that the P(score) = 1 for -1< score <1 from first principles.


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