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    (Original post by EricAteYou)
    Interesting. Fairly against the general polling data.
    The expectation is that the undecided will head towards remain which isn't unreasonable.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    The expectation is that the undecided will head towards remain which isn't unreasonable.
    Although the polling shows heavy swings of undecided to leave, the net effect is all the undecided and some remainers shifting, how much more that happens over the next week is important, as well as the weather which is currently looking to be fairly good
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    Anyone else notice VoteLeave sends out different leaflets based on demographics, my leaflet of info is different to my parents one.

    Also, actually think the Remain leaflet sent around nailed it. Way better than the Leaves argument. (For NI anyway)

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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    Anyone else notice VoteLeave sends out different leaflets based on demographics, my leaflet of info is different to my parents one.

    Also, actually think the Remain leaflet sent around nailed it. Way better than the Leaves argument. (For NI anyway)

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    My father received one sort of remain leaflet direct mail, the other day I got the "I bet you don't like farage but won't tell you why we should stay" one, and my mother has had nothing

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    Grant Schapps has said other parties should not contest the by election to pay tribute to Jo. First time i've ever agreed with him.

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    And the latest desperation: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/123450
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Grant Schapps has said other parties should not contest the by election to pay tribute to Jo. First time i've ever agreed with him.

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    cheap point scoring in reality, try to improve his somewhat negative image, there is unlikely much point in others contesting, it's a pretty safe seat to begin with and the majority will only be increased.

    It's like the campaigns being suspended for 2 days, there is no real loss to the campaigns, although leave may have lost out a bit from not having Bob ****ing Geldof making a fool of himself last night for remain.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    The expectation is that the undecided will head towards remain which isn't unreasonable.
    True. The idea of a swing for the status quo.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    And the latest desperation: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/123450
    The good old trivial e-petition. I wonder how many people who don't understand manifesto commitments or conventions will sign it.
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    (Original post by EricAteYou)
    True. The idea of a swing for the status quo.
    Exactly.
    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    And the latest desperation: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/123450
    No one expects that to happen.
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    (Original post by EricAteYou)
    The good old trivial e-petition. I wonder how many people who don't understand manifesto commitments or conventions will sign it.
    (Original post by Aph)
    Exactly.

    No one expects that to happen.
    Doesn't stop them trying though, of course it's too late, parliament is in recess and by the time it has the signatures the referendum will have been and gone.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Grant Schapps has said other parties should not contest the by election to pay tribute to Jo. First time i've ever agreed with him.

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    #10 confirming they won't be fielding a candidate, save a few grand.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Doesn't stop them trying though, of course it's too late, parliament is in recess and by the time it has the signatures the referendum will have been and gone.
    Exactly. Unfortunately the fear that we will loose is strong
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Exactly. Unfortunately the fear that we will loose is strong
    Well since No. 10 stopped setting the agenda there has been a massive swing to leave, especially among the undecided and if the momentum maintains even if the remaining undecided vote remain on the day we're quite possibly out, the weather forecast turns worse (and it's doesn't look like it can get a great deal nicer in the first place, apart from a little cooler) and the momentum isn't even needed.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Well since No. 10 stopped setting the agenda there has been a massive swing to leave, especially among the undecided and if the momentum maintains even if the remaining undecided vote remain on the day we're quite possibly out, the weather forecast turns worse (and it's doesn't look like it can get a great deal nicer in the first place, apart from a little cooler) and the momentum isn't even needed.
    All I can hope is that if the weather stope turnout so we get it in the low 30's MP's decide that the decision is too big for just over 15% of the electorate to dictate to the rest.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    All I can hope is that if the weather stope turnout so we get it in the low 30's MP's decide that the decision is too big for just over 15% of the electorate to dictate to the rest.
    You do realise turnout is likely at least that of the general unless we have a hurricane or some ****?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    You do realise turnout is likely at least that of the general unless we have a hurricane or some ****?

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    I know but one can always hope.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    All I can hope is that if the weather stope turnout so we get it in the low 30's MP's decide that the decision is too big for just over 15% of the electorate to dictate to the rest.
    To be fair, the referendum isn't binding, but Cameron has promised to abide by the results and there is no detail in the referendum legislation on minimum turnout so it's not really for MPs to move the goalposts now and argue that turnout has to be a particular percentage before they respect the result.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    To be fair, the referendum isn't binding, but Cameron has promised to abide by the results and there is no detail in the referendum legislation on minimum turnout so it's not really for MPs to move the goalposts now and argue that turnout has to be a particular percentage before they respect the result.
    Yes, I understand that but there has to be a limit on what's reasonable. Say only ~500,000 turned up, would that be enough? Or even if only a single person voted.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Yes, I understand that but there has to be a limit on what's reasonable. Say only ~500,000 turned up, would that be enough? Or even if only a single person voted.
    It should be, everybody over the age of 18 would have had the opportunity to vote, because the majority failed to check they were registered and/or failed to vote on the day is not the fault of the government and is well within the democratic rights of all those people who failed to vote.
 
 
 
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