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    It's interesting how Cox's death is subtly being used to support remain, the fact that the accused is almost certainly a brexiteer is being used by most of the media with the whole "not all people voting to leave are bad BUT..."
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    Yes, I understand that but there has to be a limit on what's reasonable. Say only ~500,000 turned up, would that be enough? Or even if only a single person voted.
    The referendum has been advertised a lot, if people cannot be bothered to vote, their opinions should be ignored, the referendum will be conducted knowing the people who chose to vote are the people who have strong opinions: ignoring a referendum because people who do not care enough choose not to vote goes against democracy.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    The referendum has been advertised a lot, if people cannot be bothered to vote, their opinions should be ignored, the referendum will be conducted knowing the people who chose to vote are the people who have strong opinions: ignoring a referendum because people who do not care enough choose not to vote goes against democracy.
    I'd say it would be stupid to say 35% turn out for the referendum okay?
    Leave wins by 52-48 so 18.2% vote to leave. But most of the MPs belive that staying is right. So I would argue that it would only be right to let the MP's decide whether we stay in or out due to the low turn out. Plus labour MP's were elected on a mandate to stay in the EU... So you could then argue that at least 20% should vote to leave to overturn labours mandate.
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    As someone that is not yet old enough to vote, it would infuriate me if a bit of bad weather stopped people voting.

    I expect a 60%+ turnout at the very least tbh. It's all we've been talking about for the last few months


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    (Original post by Aph)
    I'd say it would be stupid to say 35% turn out for the referendum okay?
    Leave wins by 52-48 so 18.2% vote to leave. But most of the MPs belive that staying is right. So I would argue that it would only be right to let the MP's decide whether we stay in or out due to the low turn out. Plus labour MP's were elected on a mandate to stay in the EU... So you could then argue that at least 20% should vote to leave to overturn labours mandate.
    I do not believe there is an individual in the country with a fraction of intelligence who do not know there is a referendum on EU membership. The people who choose not to vote should have their vote interpreted as an abstention, to argue MPs should decide the result of a referendum when there is a low turnout is absurd. MPs were not elected on their EU stance but wider issues, for example, polls suggest most Conservative supporters want to leave the EU but most Tory MPs do not, putting the decision to MPs will see the parties whip MPs to give the result the leaders want to see.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    I do not believe there is an individual in the country with a fraction of intelligence who do not know there is a referendum on EU membership. The people who choose not to vote should have their vote interpreted as an abstention, to argue MPs should decide the result of a referendum when there is a low turnout is absurd. MPs were not elected on their EU stance but wider issues, for example, polls suggest most Conservative supporters want to leave the EU but most Tory MPs do not, putting the decision to MPs will see the parties whip MPs to give the result the leaders want to see.
    We elect MP's to represent us, if we want our veiws always represented we should be a direct democracy but that isn't a good idea because most people vote or make decisions for stupid reasons.
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    Sounds like a white nationalist group is related with Cox's Murder and parliament is being being recalled on Monday to pay respect and to discuss security of MPs
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    I think Cameron , Corbyn , Benn and Bercow could of worn black ties when laying flowers .... rather than blue and red
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    I should say my analysis assumes that dk will break for remain by a margin of 2 to 1. Bookies could either be going with the close polls or assuming a larger break.
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    I think Cameron , Corbyn , Benn and Bercow could of worn black ties when laying flowers .... rather than blue and red
    I've always known it to be those who are in mourning wear black ( ties ); those who are simply paying respects don't.
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    So far several parties have said they will not contest the by-election which will follow Jo Cox.s death. Different from when the last MP was murdered (Ian Gow, by the IRA) when they did, and indeed the seat changed hands.

    Other than Ian Gow and Airey neave, both murdered by the IRA, I am not sure when an MP was last murdered outside active military service or bombing in wartime. I assume there have been some since Spencer Percival was killed in 1812- does anyone know?
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    (Original post by hazzer1998)
    I think Cameron , Corbyn , Benn and Bercow could of worn black ties when laying flowers .... rather than blue and red
    (Original post by EricAteYou)
    I've always known it to be those who are in mourning wear black ( ties ); those who are simply paying respects don't.
    Regardless of whethere it is the correct thing to do, it seems a detail not to be too worried about.
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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    Regardless of whethere it is the correct thing to do, it seems a detail not to be too worried about.
    Oh no, I completely agree with you.
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    Oh hey, nice new usergroup I seem to have acquired.

    Don't mind me, I've only got a few days anyway.
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    Oh hey, nice new usergroup I seem to have acquired.

    Don't mind me, I've only got a few days anyway.
    What are you doing here?

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    What are you doing here?

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    Same as you, I'd expect!
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    Same as you, I'd expect!
    I mean what party you tit

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    I mean what party you tit

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    (Original post by iEthan)
    Oh hey, nice new usergroup I seem to have acquired.

    Don't mind me, I've only got a few days anyway.
    Welcome to the gang! Next you'll be a minister :lol:
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