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    I'm still waiting for mine to come through on track... I think New College said it would come some time in February??!!
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    :confused::confused::confused::confused:I am a international applicant applying G100 mathematics and I ve receiced a conditonal offer (open offer) from st hugh's .In the condition ,there is not a requirement for IELTS, do I have to take IELTS and get 7?Or the tutors thought my English is Ok in the interview so they did not give me such a condition?
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    finally offer on track
    now i just have to study to get my grades
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    (Original post by moriartyzhang)
    :confused::confused::confused::confused:I am a international applicant applying G100 mathematics and I ve receiced a conditonal offer (open offer) from st hugh's .In the condition ,there is not a requirement for IELTS, do I have to take IELTS and get 7?Or the tutors thought my English is Ok in the interview so they did not give me such a condition?
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    How are we supposed to know? Ask the collge you have an offer from.
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    (Original post by SamF1992)
    How are we supposed to know? Ask the collge you have an offer from.
    I suppose that the person who posted was just asking what we think, looking for some sort of friendly support or advice; an international applicant, so maybe confused and looking for some peer reassurance? I would have presumed from your reply that you are obviously somebody who has never needed to use TSR in this way, if I hadn't just skimmed through your other posts.
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    (Original post by SamF1992)
    How are we supposed to know? Ask the collge you have an offer from.
    Christ, don't ask any questions...
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    (Original post by shoshin)
    Difficult to give examples without upsetting some offer holder or other. I mean that if the concept of 'better' colleges were valid, and if pooling were therefore a process by which the 'best' candidates were retained by these 'better' colleges, then why does pooling often proceed in what may be considered by the same flawed logic the 'opposite' direction? It's meant to be a rhetorical question: I'm not agreeing with the proposition.

    Oh go on then: an example, at the risk of being negged to damnation. My college was Mansfield, but the noticeboard during interview showed students being pooled from there to Christ Church. A second example: a friend of mine chose Pembroke, which at the time (a few years back: lemme 'lone Pembroke offer holders, it may have all changed since) didn't have two ha'pennies to rub together, and was pooled from there to New, which gave him an offer. So he thought that he had 'traded up', like a free cabin upgrade on a flight.

    I'm worried that I sound as if I'm defending these concepts, of 'better' colleges and top-to-bottom pooling. I'm trying to argue the opposite.
    Ah right, yeh I get what you mean. But I suppose you'd have to see the pooling stats and college specific admissions stats to know whether or not there are 'better' (more competitive) colleges but even then there could be different reasons for pooling and more candidates doesn't necessarily mean 'better' candidates.
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    hello

    wadham english....

    please don't hate me but: Can someone sort out the APOSTROPHE in this thread's title?

    There are clearly more than one of us!
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    in regards to pooling and 'better colleges'-

    I think that which colleges and subjects pool and receive poolees is quite volatile, or random if you like: New might receive more applications than Trinity because their helpers at the open day are particularly good-looking.

    ....That's how I chose my college.
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    (Original post by Yrodrigues)
    hello

    wadham english....

    please don't hate me but: Can someone sort out the APOSTROPHE in this thread's title?

    There are clearly more than one of us!
    It could be the OP's chat thread and we're just contributing to it.
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    (Original post by shoshin)
    It could be the OP's chat thread and we're just contributing to it.
    Highly unlikely to be that ... but sure... we shall accept it
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    (Original post by shoshin)
    I suppose that the person who posted was just asking what we think, looking for some sort of friendly support or advice; an international applicant, so maybe confused and looking for some peer reassurance? I would have presumed from your reply that you are obviously somebody who has never needed to use TSR in this way, if I hadn't just skimmed through your other posts.

    (Original post by micky022)
    Christ, don't ask any questions...
    Heh. just read my post back, sounded a bit harsh, wasn't meant to sound that way at all, I just meant that he should phone the college he applied to, because it's unlikely that any of us will know the ins and outs of his offer.
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    mine changed today
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    (Original post by miaow2010)
    I'm still waiting for mine to come through on track... I think New College said it would come some time in February??!!
    I've got an unconditional from New and it came through on track today; they also said February in my acceptance letter/email.
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    As to the apostrophe thing, I actually named the thread differently when I first set it up, this is what the moderators renamed it as, so blame them :-P

    and no, it's not chat thread for BeritV to chat with BeritV.
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    (Original post by Yrodrigues)
    hello

    wadham english....

    please don't hate me but: Can someone sort out the APOSTROPHE in this thread's title?

    There are clearly more than one of us!
    The title is technically correct, because it could be referring to a generic offer holder (another example: "This is a man's game")
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    (Original post by miaow2010)
    I'm still waiting for mine to come through on track... I think New College said it would come some time in February??!!
    My offers from New (which said February on the letter) and it came through Track at half 5 today, so I imagine yours will come any time
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    (Original post by shoshin)
    I was fortunate enough to get an offer, and had resolved to try again next year if I were not successful. With apologies for being the (lone?) dissenting voice, I would not have made an open application. While it is true that this means the candidate is allocated to an under-subscribed college for the subject, it does not follow that this increases the chances of a place, because you will be thrown up against excellent candidates who have been pooled pre- or post-interview to the same college. The overall quality of interviewees is such that the possibility of them being slightly weaker because their college of choice allowed them to be pooled (and there are many reasons for a pooling decision) is hardly worth weighing in the balance. In fact, it is quite common to see successful pooled candidates inadvertently 'trade up' in terms of perceived college prestige.

    College choice is one of the few areas where you have some degree of control over the interview process. You can research culture and ethos; for example, I applied to one that had a long history and proven record of accepting a high proportion of state school students. This is particularly important if you have an unusual qualification or educational path; has the college accepted people like you, or people that you may know? There are ways to find this out - TSR for instance!

    You can also choose a college such that you will be fairly sure of who your interviewers will be (in at least one of your interviews). They can then be Googled to death to wring out as much useful information as possible about their academic interests and opinions, which can prove useful (if carried out subtly and sparingly) at interview.

    Finally, you can make sure that you choose a college in which you know that you will feel comfortable; as a prospective candidate, you have wide access to visit, attend open days, and perhaps even stay overnight (some of the colleges do b&b, out of term) before making your preferred college decison. This may make you more relaxed at interview, and your genuine enthusiasm for the college may shine through, whereas if a college is allocated to you through an open app, it may be one that does not quite suit your personality: too big, too small, too new, too old, too quiet, too scary etc. However slight, this sense of unease may show through at interview.

    These are tiny factors I know, but I worked on the basis that most of us will either get into Oxford, or be rejected, by a hair's breadth; relatively few would dazzle at interview (certainly not myself!) and relatively few would be judged academically below par. Of course, all this planning could still result in being reallocated pre-interview! But you are at least maximising your limited opportunities to control your fate.

    Sorry to throw the cat amongst the pigeons at this late stage! Very best of luck anyway
    (Original post by Lumi Nous)
    Hello.
    Basically, do not go for the same college again. Most colleges explicitly advise this. It would be fairly pointless as the tutors will believe they have already judged your essential academic ability. I know one guy who ignored all the advice of his teachers and reapplied to the same college; he simply got rejected again.

    Also, you need a new dream. Reapplying to the same college would probably encourage obsession. I fell in love with Jesus college Cambridge last year; I still think it's fantastic, but I forced myself to move on and have an open mind about other places (although reapplying to Oxbridge is admittedly a little obsessive)
    (Original post by LtCommanderData)
    The best example (which avoids offending anybody, if that's your concern!) is that people are pooled both ways between the same colleges. That is, one person might be pooled from college X to college Y, and another from college Y to college X. If we assume the suggestion that some colleges are 'better' than others, one of the people must have "traded up".

    But I've always thought that at such a high and fairly consistent standard, the biggest factor differentiating between colleges and how well you do at them or how much you enjoy them is how well you get on with particular tutors. So at "superior" college X, if you don't get on with the tutor, you would have been better off at slightly "inferior" college Y, where you would have liked the tutor more.
    I applied to Hertford because it had a bridge.
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    (Original post by mcgovernjon)
    The title is technically correct, because it could be referring to a generic offer holder (another example: "This is a man's game")
    It could be. But in practice it is the thread of the offer holders and the apostrophe is making me fidget.
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    (Original post by RupertTheBear)
    I applied to Hertford because it had a bridge.
    I applied to Hertford because when I used their CD prospectus, it congratulated me for having a Mac.
 
 
 
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