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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    I make claims up? Oh dear sweetheart I told you to read up on Iran's history. Read Marina Nemat's time in Iran. She was brutally punished alongside other Christians in Iran's most dangerous prison by Muslims and only managed to get out of a death sentence because she was forced to CONVERT to Islam.
    One of the points of my original post was that you're a massive hypocrite when it comes to complaining about "not backing up a point".

    Another point is that Muslims suffer from religious discrimination by the millions as well, so singling out Islam is a little bit one-sided.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    One of the points of my original post was that you're a massive hypocrite when it comes to complaining about "not backing up a point".

    Another point is that Muslims suffer from religious discrimination by the millions as well, so singling out Islam is a little bit one-sided.

    Where's that statistic to prove that they're discriminated by millions? I want a stat to prove this or I'm going to assume you're just talking BS.

    I find it extremely hard to take you seriously since you think Muslims having backwards views is a perfectly ok thing. Why don't you live in a Muslim country if you're such a fangirl?
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Where's that statistic to prove that they're discriminated by millions? I want a stat to prove this or I'm going to assume you're just talking BS.

    I find it extremely hard to take you seriously since you think Muslims having backwards views is a perfectly ok thing. Why don't you live in a Muslim country if you're such a fangirl?
    read my post and watch the video before getting all salty, the description clearly indicates the persecution of millions of Muslims

    and no, its not a perfectly OK thing, although the problem of 'holding backwards views' is pretty ambiguous, crying about Islam every single day and constantly attributing all Muslims with the actions/intentions of terrorists is simply a part of the problem.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    read my post and watch the video before getting all salty, the description clearly indicates the persecution of millions of Muslims

    and no, its not a perfectly OK thing, although the problem of 'holding backwards views' is pretty ambiguous, crying about Islam every single day and constantly attributing all Muslims with the actions/intentions of terrorists is simply a part of the problem.
    I want stats. Can you provide them or not?


    I've seen inhuman trying to explain to you that people are against the ideology, not the people. But that doesn't seem to register in your head.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    I want stats. Can you provide them or not?


    I've seen inhuman trying to explain to you that people are against the ideology, not the people. But that doesn't seem to register in your head.
    "Nicholas Kristof travels to Myanmar, where the Buddhist majority confines a million Muslims to camps and villages — deprived of jobs, schools, doctors and even life itself. Why is the world silent?"

    A minimum of one million Muslims are suffering from Buddhist persecution in 'concentration-camp' style areas. There is your statistic.
    if this doesn't satisfy you, give this link a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persec...ims_in_Myanmar



    And inhuman has done little but throw insults at every chance he gets, and ignoring the substance of any responses I'm giving. It seems you're also going down the same route, which is a shame. If you actually read the discussions, you'd realise this, but you have a negative predisposition towards me simply because I'm defending the 'backwards culture'.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    The 2004 invasion of Iraq not only was indirectly responsible for several of those things, but also uprooted and destroyed the lives of millions of innocent Iraqis and Middle Easterners.
    You have repeatedly been asked why, if Islamist terrorism is mainly caused by the upheaval resulting from military intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq (as you claim), there were many Islamist terrorist attacks on western targets before military intervention?

    So far you have spectacularly failed to address this question. I can only assume that you don't have an answer.
    What a surprise!
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    "Nicholas Kristof travels to Myanmar, where the Buddhist majority confines a million Muslims to camps and villages — deprived of jobs, schools, doctors and even life itself. Why is the world silent?"

    A minimum of one million Muslims are suffering from Buddhist persecution in 'concentration-camp' style areas. There is your statistic.
    if this doesn't satisfy you, give this link a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persec...ims_in_Myanmar



    And inhuman has done little but throw insults at every chance he gets, and ignoring the substance of any responses I'm giving. It seems you're also going down the same route, which is a shame. If you actually read the discussions, you'd realise this, but you have a negative predisposition towards me simply because I'm defending the 'backwards culture'.
    You said by the Muslims suffer discrimination by the millions. As sad and disgusting the case in Myanmar is, a million Muslims are being put into camps. Where are the other stats which put it in millions?
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Yes, ISIS do brutal things and it is partly justified through the brutality of the Quran. No one can deny that.
    Well, you've been trying pretty hard for 26 pages.

    So you finally acknowledge that Islamic ideology is a factor in Islamist terrorism and sectarian conflict.

    But in a world where the excessive majority of Muslims are being persecuted, hated, and even killed
    So, the entire populations of Indonesia, Egypt, Morocco, Sausi Arabi, Pakistan, etc, etc, are being "persecuted, hated and killed"?
    Really? By whom?

    We need to grow up and realise that our problems are not the fault of Muslims, and attack ISIS for staining a religion whose followers are decent enough to ignore its ills. ISIS are actively legitimising hateful feelings among Muslims,
    ISIS merely follow an unmodernised, literalist reading of the Quran and sunnah. We might not like what they are doing. Many Muslims may not like what they are doing. But they are only doing what they see as god's work. And they have chapter and verse to prove it.

    As they say in AA, the forst step in solving a problem is accepting that you have one.
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
    Whoops, but that doesn't make my argument invalid does it?
    Yes it does, because there were many Islamist attacks on western targets before 2003. So there must be another cause other than the 2003 invasion.
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    (Original post by champ_mc99)
    The invasion killed way more than ISIS and HAMAS. And I'm pretty sure Bashar Al-Assad is responsible for majority of the Syrian deaths over ISIS.
    The vast majority of deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan were committed by Iraqis, Afghans and foreign insurgents, not by coalition troops.
    https://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    I've seen inhuman trying to explain to you that people are against the ideology, not the people. But that doesn't seem to register in your head.
    Like many privileged, white, teenage, SJWs he displays a kind of ironic racism. He thinks that criticising Islam is attacking Muslims, and because he thinks that all Muslims are Brown Foreigners, they deed defending from the nasty white folk who are attacking them.
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    Instead of a 'count to a million' thread we should have a 'countdown to self destruction due to prejudice' one
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    What you have said is absolutely true, but Islam is not a pacific religion, regardless. Western-influenced Islam is much more tolerant and peaceful precisely because they have been eased out by western ideas and commonly held beliefs. But if you go out to Saudi Arabia where virtually everybody is a Muslim, and you bring along those friends of yours, trust me you they will not last long in that outfit. A homosexual couple would undoubtedly be imprisoned, if not tortured, flogged or publicly executed before they could ever exercise their right to freedom of speech, idea which is practically non-existent there. An innocent civilian who wishes to no longer affiliate themselves with the religion of Islam will similarly receive the capital punishment for apostasy, possibly being slowly stoned to death and not even given a humane execution. People who say that practicing muslims in Arab countries are peaceful are just blatantly ignoring self-evident facts.
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    I want stats. Can you provide them or not?


    I've seen inhuman trying to explain to you that people are against the ideology, not the people. But that doesn't seem to register in your head.
    Don't bother with that guy. Total troll.
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    I think people forget that the less conservative Muslims are also heavily targeted by extremists
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    (Original post by eraserbrain)
    Read this, it has a rich outline, evidence and cites several philosophers (I cannot explain as well as it does): http://www.e-ir.info/2010/03/18/the-...-21st-century/
    just a lot of wordy, pseudo/sophisticated intellectual garbage

    how can such pretentious verbiage be taken seriously ?

    it explains nothing at all
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    (Original post by QE2)
    Yes it does, because there were many Islamist attacks on western targets before 2003. So there must be another cause other than the 2003 invasion.
    actually, the present cycle of Islamist terrorist attacks started with the East Africa US Embassy bombings (1998 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_U...bassy_bombings or even with the first World Trade Center attack (1993) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_W...Center_bombing
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    (Original post by alevelstresss)
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    I am certain some of these people are trolls, or are so comfortable with their prejudice that there is no point trying to tell them anything- they'll either dismiss the validity of your clearly outlined argument without providing reasoning, or they won't make an effort to read what has been written.
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    (Original post by eraserbrain)
    I am certain some of these people are trolls, or are so comfortable with their prejudice that there is no point trying to tell them anything- they'll either dismiss the validity of your clearly outlined argument without providing reasoning, or they won't make an effort to read what has been written.
    One of your alternates?
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    (Original post by champ_mc99)
    The invasion killed way more than ISIS and HAMAS. And I'm pretty sure Bashar Al-Assad is responsible for majority of the Syrian deaths over ISIS.
    Do you have any numbers to back that up? You can't just say something that controversial without any evidence.
 
 
 
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