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    (Original post by Zacken)
    As an international student, I'm glad that Cambridge interviews more people. I know that I've got more of a chance of demonstrating my ability at interview and securing a offer (giving a higher proportion offers for maths at Cambridge) instead of being rejected outright due to non-standard grades.
    If you are confident in your ability, the Oxford MAT gives you the same chance of demonstrating your ability.
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    (Original post by ForeignStudent32)
    If you are confident in your ability, the Oxford MAT gives you the same chance of demonstrating your ability.
    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    No.
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    (Original post by Protoxylic)
    Are you quoting yourself or a published statistic?
    Published stats. I have considerd applying to Cambridge so i looked it up. However, I like how with Oxford, if I can score above a certain score on MAT, I am almost guaranteed acceptance and test taking is my forte.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    No.
    Pretty sure it does. Everyone getting over a certain mark on MAT gets interviewed. And almost everyone over 80 gets in.
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    (Original post by ForeignStudent32)
    Published stats. I have considerd applying to Cambridge so i looked it up. However, I like how with Oxford, if I can score above a certain score on MAT, I am almost guaranteed acceptance and test taking is my forte.
    Fair enough

    (Original post by ForeignStudent32)
    If you are confident in your ability, the Oxford MAT gives you the same chance of demonstrating your ability.
    I disagree. The MAT tests your ability to answer set questions, in a set style, on one day of the year. The interview, that tests your ability to answer set questions, in a different set style, on one day of the year.

    The point is, there is no perfect way of gauging a student's ability. The way that Cambridge works, however, is the supervision system. And this works much like an interview, so they would like to see applicants thrive in that type of atmosphere. Whereas Oxford, I presume, would much prefer to see students thrive in a test. They're intrinsically different.
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    That the chat situation has become rather dire ...
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    (Original post by ForeignStudent32)
    Pretty sure it does. Everyone getting over a certain mark on MAT gets interviewed. And almost everyone over 80 gets in.
    Just lol, so much lol. STEP is at least 3/4 times harder than the MAT.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    Just lol, so much lol. STEP is at least 3/4 times harder than the MAT.
    Cool story. Maybe because you take STEP at the end of the year. So what if STEP is 3 or 4 times harder, it is like saying IMO is three times harder than STEP. But what is the point of you doing IMO, if you can't even do good on STEP.

    Because STEP is harder, you have to answer less questions right for your offer. The cutoff mark for STEP is much lower than MAT.
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    (Original post by ForeignStudent32)
    Cool story. Maybe because you take STEP at the end of the year. So what if STEP is 3 or 4 times harder, it is like saying IMO is three times harder than STEP. But what is the point of you doing IMO, if you can't even do good on STEP.

    Because STEP is fun and I took STEP early, during my GCSE's.

    Is your argument: I applied to Oxford because I'm scared of STEP and I'd rather sit the easier MAT, then? :rofl:
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    (Original post by ForeignStudent32)
    Pretty sure it does. Everyone getting over a certain mark on MAT gets interviewed. And almost everyone over 80 gets in.
    physicsmaths consistently gets way above 80, get full mark in UKMT and still can miss STEP offer...
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    Because STEP is fun and I took STEP early, during my GCSE's.

    Is your argument: I applied to Oxford because I'm scared of STEP and I'd rather sit the easier MAT, then? :rofl:
    Lol, nice logic.
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    (Original post by ForeignStudent32)
    Lol, nice logic.
    Hey, that's roughly what you said.

    Oh, and the cutoff mark for STEP is quite high, and is in two different papers.
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    (Original post by C0balt)
    physicsmaths consistently gets way above 80, get full mark in UKMT and still can miss STEP offer...
    Maybe he had a bad day.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    Hey, that's roughly what you said.

    Oh, and the cutoff mark for STEP is quite high, and is in two different papers.
    I am sure it is not as high as MAT. I am not sure if you are understanding this. Even if MAT is easier, I have to get more questions right on MAT to get accepted than I do on STEP to get accepted.
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    (Original post by Protoxylic)
    The TSA has been scrapped from most colleges at Cambridge because it shows no correlation to tripos performance.
    Good correlation for engineering, less good for economics. Scrapped because it does not ADD to the correlation from AS UMS scores. So waste of time doing both. (NOT because it shows no correlation.)
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    (Original post by ForeignStudent32)
    Maybe he had a bad day.
    Maybe a dinosaur fell from the heaven and bit his writing hand off.
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    (Original post by ForeignStudent32)
    I am sure it is not as high as MAT. I am not sure if you are understanding this. Even if MAT is easier, I have to get more questions right on MAT to get accepted than I do on STEP to get accepted.
    It's certainly harder to meet than MAT's cut-off rate. C'mon, any body who can get 1's in STEP will beast MAT with little to no effort.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    I can tell you haven't done STEP.
    Hope you avoided the bit on sample sizes.
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    It's certainly harder to meet than MAT's cut-off rate. C'mon, any body who can get 1's in STEP will beast MAT with little to no effort.
    What do you mean by beast? 100 on MAT?
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    (Original post by ForeignStudent32)
    What do you mean by beast? 100 on MAT?
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