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crazylemon
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You do realise NI is not a dedicated pot of money that goes solely to the NHS? In reality, it's just another method of taxation that all goes into a big pot. You are in essence objecting to taxation, which if you are healthy, you do not use. The NHS model is about pooling risk and resources, but that does to an extent rely on some responsible behaviour. I think it is worth thinking about how to incentivise people to take more interest in their own health - with an aging population, we cannot just let people think - oh the NHS is a magic button that will fix all, there simply isn't the resources.
Oh I know NI doesn't work how. But that is what it is supposed to be.

I am against most taxation. But NI, VAT, Income and CAP gains are the worse (In that order).
There are better ways of raising revenue. I would love to see an LVT come in.

I have no problem with educating people properly but carrot and stick with no ability to opt out is wrong in my opinion. Pooling risk totally and then telling people they are too high risk and must change without giving them the option to go, 'actually I want to live like this and I want to opt out of the system' is wrong.
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Wesleyan amuse me they wanted over £100 per month from me. I do not understand the point in that and why they keep sending them constantly into lectures it boardering on annoying!!
They wouldn't even consider me at any cost! (Still had to put up with the same lecture multiple times from them though :rolleyes:)
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They wouldn't even consider me at any cost! (Still had to put up with the same lecture multiple times from them though :rolleyes:)
Not allowed to be excused on the pointlessness of it all?
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Thanks! Does the drawing and colouring in actually help?! I don't mean to sound like a cynic but that kind of thing doesn't usually help me learn
Yeah it did help me - think I can remember upper limb anatomy better than almost anything else of years 1-2. Never used an anatomy colouring book myself btw.

King's admin is such a fail. Been sent the emails to select SSC's for Rotation 1 - I'll be in Chichester and only the London SSC's have been put up, useless.
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I like the sounds of the SJT (Situational Judgement Test) being proposed for the 2013 FP applications.

It seems like it may be more useful than the white space questions (depending on the quality of the questions of course)

(September sBMJ, Page 4)

What do people think? Any final years taken part in the PRE?
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I like the sounds of the SJT (Situational Judgement Test) being proposed for the 2013 FP applications.

It seems like it may be more useful than the white space questions (depending on the quality of the questions of course)

(September sBMJ, Page 4)

What do people think? Any final years taken part in the PRE?

I hate the idea of it. Would you have actually decided on that tick box answer if it was not presented infront of you?

Theres not going to be someone in real life holding up some tick boxes everytime something comes up.

Its about independant thought.....or am i secretly a robot??
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(Original post by crazylemon)
Not allowed to be excused on the pointlessness of it all?

Theres free food! And i have a feeling this lecture wont be the last we see of them.
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I like the sounds of the SJT (Situational Judgement Test) being proposed for the 2013 FP applications.

It seems like it may be more useful than the white space questions (depending on the quality of the questions of course)

(September sBMJ, Page 4)

What do people think? Any final years taken part in the PRE?
I took part in one of the pilots, it was alright I guess. Bit peeved that we weren't told how well we'd done as it's difficult to judge without that really!
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I hate the idea of it. Would you have actually decided on that tick box answer if it was not presented infront of you?

Theres not going to be someone in real life holding up some tick boxes everytime something comes up.

Its about independant thought.....or am i secretly a robot??

You get to trial it this year anyway.

I personally like the idea of it, presumably because this is essentially the method we are tested on our clinical knowledge at Peninsula.

I can see the benefits of it, the questions will be put together in such a way that without the knowledge you would be unable to answer.
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I took part in one of the pilots, it was alright I guess. Bit peeved that we weren't told how well we'd done as it's difficult to judge without that really!
What were the questions like? Anything like progress testing?

That is a little annoying, i'm assuming that they have yet to decide how results will be assessed and feedback given. I think they are using these trials to develop standardisation and marking.
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What were the questions like? Anything like progress testing?

That is a little annoying, i'm assuming that they have yet to decide how results will be assessed and feedback given. I think they are using these trials to develop standardisation and marking.
They were just along the lines of the examples they give on their website: http://www.isfp.org.uk/SJT/Pages/Example-questions.aspx
nothing particularly knowledge based at all.
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But the questions on the application form from my understanding are not to test your clinical knowledge.

Its how you perform as part of a team, time management etc...
How can you learn or revise a certain person characteristic? That and i prefer open questions because i seem to achieve more.
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But the questions on the application form from my understanding are not to test your clinical knowledge.

Its how you perform as part of a team, time management etc...
How can you learn or revise a certain person characteristic? That and i prefer open questions because i seem to achieve more.
Being able to bull**** and spend two weeks on the questions will serve people well on open questions. I would say adding a time limit and more limited questions would serve better.


EDIT: Personally I would probably do better on open questions, but if they are striving more towards objectivity then this may be an improvement.
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I'd much prefer to keep the white space questions. Writing utter bull**** has so far got me into medicine and an iBSc, so I was fairly hopeful that I could continue the pattern with job applications :hmpf:
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I don't think it's a bad thing really. I mean my main concern would be getting the first and second priorities mixed up (even though they could be close) and then losing all your marks for that question. However they do say "Marks are awarded for near misses", so hopefully that won't be a problem. :cool:
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I'd much prefer to keep the white space questions. Writing utter bull**** has so far got me into medicine and an iBSc, so I was fairly hopeful that I could continue the pattern with job applications :hmpf:
Only because we had to write utter bull**** to get through the loops.
Without it that just leaves us alone in the wilderness.
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drunk chess drunk chess i'm losing at it my life is pretty lame
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drunk chess drunk chess i'm losing at it my life is pretty lame
Oh dear :rolleyes:

Where abouts do you live in Ireland?
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I'd much prefer to keep the white space questions. Writing utter bull**** has so far got me into medicine and an iBSc, so I was fairly hopeful that I could continue the pattern with job applications :hmpf:
Haha same, I pride myself on my ability to write bull**** and make it sound fantastic.
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Since when did I suddenly think - yeah, lets learn some Russian?! It's been a long summer methinks.
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