According to the people on this forum, for a guy to just get an average girl..

True, there's this widespread perception about Asians that's synonymous with boredom and poor English in general. Hollywood generally portrays Asians as the nerds and geeks who try way too hard to be cool and always end up failing miserably.

I get what you're saying lol but that's like the 1% of Asian guys. The average Asian guy doesn't have a cool factor that high.

In fact, I'm great friends with the Indians in my college, mainly because they're sociable, friendly and easy to communicate with. The Asians are the exact opposite.

did you try internet dating and all of that stuff?

It sounds like you were not interacting with enough guys, rather than being ugly.

Nope, I'm from Malaysia. Grew up in Singapore and Australia though.

When I think asian guys to be honest, I think of Bruce Lee, Jet Li, Jackie Chan - who are all so ****ing cool.

Compare that to indian guys, who have we got?

Citizen Khan and that bloke from East is East?

No. This was all ~10 years ago now, internet dating was nowhere near as popular back then, and as a uni student you'd hope you didn't need it!

I think it was a combination of both factors, and not having confidence in myself. I was interacting with guys but hadn't the slightest clue how to flirt or show interest. It took time and a few false starts before I had my first serious relationship, and then a few years later I met my husband. All worked out in the end!

Just came back from the gym, showered and did some reading.

Pleasantly surprised to see actual civilized conversation past few posts. Good to see some rationality here in the past few pages.

The truth is that it seems the average man (especially if he is ethnic) just needs to jump through numerous hoops.

The truth is that someone can use that time to something more productive. I mean like make some more money, do something you actually enjoy. Do I like being an extrovert, trying to entertain girls and try to sell myself to anyone? Not at all. I'm naturally reserved, introverted and prefer to spend time with myself or a small group of close people.

The hoops it seems you have to jump through doesn't sound fun, just the end reward sounds fun (the sex or relationship). I mean come on, this **** shouldn't be so complicated and long winded (well it isn't for good looking guys).*

I'm not someone who gives up easily, in fact I've had to work my socks off to get where I am (used to be fat, now ripped. Crap GCSE's, graduated from top 5 uni etc) and I usually like it when my back is up against the wall and all the odds are against are against me. Most of all I like proving people wrong. Whenever I undertake a monumental change to my life I always think would my male inspirations also partake in what the end results of what I want to achieve is in. Would Rafael Nasal take time off his strict regimen to chase girls? Would Julius Caesar (pre dictator) put off his plans to conquer Gaul to chase girls?

Obviously I cannot make the same comparisons as I have nowhere near the same responsibilities but it's just something I like to think of about how great men would react or tackle problems which I am facing.

Guess I have to accept that I'll have to change my lifestyle considerably to get girls or just suck it up and accept that I'll get nothing. I guess this is where my bitterness for the top looking guys and girls comes in; they don't need to do anything.

I just signed up for my local tennis club, haven't played since uni finished. Perhaps it will also help me get out of this mental rut I've been in for two months.

I agree with Tom_Ford. Hating on your own won't get you anywhere - even if you think you haven't got 'slitty' eyes or whatever, you will still be regarded as Asian. Even if you and your parents were born here you would never be regarded as one of them because of the way you look. You will be seen as Asian always. Glorifying/worshipping whatever you want to call it is weak. Weakness is not attractive. And you will wonder why these British girls won't look your way...?

I agree, I've heard these comments many, many times before. I just really don't appreciate Asian culture or asian people in general. I've always been exposed to and subsequently adopted this idea that Asian (or more specifically, Chinese) culture is bad and "inferior". I really don't think I'm glorifying another culture, it's just that I can't appreciate my own. Self-hating, I know, but that's just who I am.

In Malaysia, Chinese people who have the same mentality as I do are commonly referred to as 'bananas', because we are said to be yellow on the outside but white inside. The usage of the term dates back to the past when people who spoke fluent English had better education, jobs, were more wealthy etc.

Would Rafael Nasal take time off his strict regimen to chase girls?

Basically, if you're a 3-6 out of 10, it's going to be difficult?

Who?

This some guy down the pub?

I agree, I've heard these comments many, many times before. I just really don't appreciate Asian culture or asian people in general. I've always been exposed to and subsequently adopted this idea that Asian (or more specifically, Chinese) culture is bad and "inferior". I really don't think I'm glorifying another culture, it's just that I can't appreciate my own. Self-hating, I know, but that's just who I am.

In Malaysia, Chinese people who have the same mentality as I do are commonly referred to as 'bananas', because we are said to be yellow on the outside but white inside. The usage of the term dates back to the past when people who spoke fluent English had better education, jobs, were more wealthy etc.

Do you think family cost men lays, if you **** parents and relatives. Bare in mind a girl is effectively or might be part of your family.

you what?