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Poll: Who should win?
Helen (55)
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Jim (36)
12.54%
Susan (71)
24.74%
Tom (125)
43.55%
JK471993
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Good guys eventually win!
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I'm ridiculously happy
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so happy Tom won... Helen's business plan = :lolwut:

although Tom's previous AWESOME invention rightfully justifies his win

PS. I LOVE DARA O'BRIAIN
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(Original post by T-Toe)
Sorry to burst people's bubbles but Tom definitely won't win.
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Omg, Tom is the greatest.

"That's for all the kids that bullied us at school!" - hahah, Dara O'Briain, what a legend.
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Toms a really nice person and Im glad he's won.
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(Original post by Altocirrus)
Right decision, though I thought Sugar didn't like engineers...

Helen really reminds me of my old geography teacher!
LS has a business view on engineering IMO.

He sold electrical devices, but he always thinks "how do i make it more cheap? How do i make so, that it sells?". I personally had an Amstrad 1512. The thing about the 1512 is that the power supply is IN THE MONITOR. If you know anything about PC's, power supplies are always in the PC box itself. But LS put the power supply in the monitor, because he found it was cheaper. Now that's a typical LS design touch.

In the end, LS in fact loves the synergy he can get with Tom. Whereby LS guides Tom in the business side of technology.

Maybe Glenn was a bit too technical for LS. But i don't think LS hates engineers for being engineers.
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To think, I got negged for saying Tom.

**** you.
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Initially I thought Helen's decision to come in with a second business plan was stupid - firstly it showed she wasn't 100% behind the previous idea, and secondly it meant nobody had a chance to scrutinise it.

Then Sugar took Tom on despite not liking his chair and having already rubbished the health checks side, so he didn't really care about the business plan?
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I love that Tom is "incredibly passionate" about people having healthy backs and that his business plan was about caring about people :love: What a man.
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(Original post by ArcadiaHouse)
From the bases of sole logic, he shouldn't have won, but Sir Alan sees some sort of potential in him. I personally don't think he was a worthy winner, his track record is proof of this. However for this particular prize, perhaps he was the most 'suitable' candidate. He wouldn't stand a chance by himself in the real world, he needs direction and mentoring from Sugar. Helen, Susan and Melody for example, don't really need Sugar to succeed in the business world, he does.

Yes he's won today, but we mustn't forget that the real business starts tomorrow and soon the Apprentice hype will be over. I wonder where he'll be this time next year. Well good luck to him anyway.
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(Original post by JesusRevived)
There wasn't anything wrong with her plan but the field she chose to base her idea on.
Skincare is an oligopolistic market where a few firms dominate the industry(L'Oreal.Revlon,Olay) where basically their product is the same were you'll find that the same chemicals are used and because of this they don't compete in pricing as its a elastic good .Instead they try to differentiate their product through advertising, this is the main problem lord sugar was raising about her plan the big guns like L'Oreal spend millions advertising there goods every year and the 250k investment would like he said go in a click ,all to advertising as NO drug store or supermarket would take on their product if they weren't advertising.

So basically it was going to be a hit or miss
Oh I see. So it's basically impossible to break into the beauty industry.
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Oh I see. So it's basically impossible to break into the beauty industry.
In small, specialist stores her products would thrive, but when put against major brands it has no chance. He wasn't interested in small-scale businesses, however, so she was deemed unsuitable.
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(Original post by ArcadiaHouse)
I love that Tom is "incredibly passionate" about people having healthy backs and that his business plan was about caring about people :love: What a man.
He's just so lovely! :love:
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I think any of the final four deserved to win really but I am really happy that Tom won.

I look forward to seeing what he can do in the future with the backing of Lord Sugar.

I suppose if Susan had a slightly better business plan Lord Sugar might have picked her but it wasn't to be.
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(Original post by Hopple)
Initially I thought Helen's decision to come in with a second business plan was stupid - firstly it showed she wasn't 100% behind the previous idea, and secondly it meant nobody had a chance to scrutinise it.

Then Sugar took Tom on despite not liking his chair and having already rubbished the health checks side, so he didn't really care about the business plan?
I didn't matter what Helen did Tom was always going to win. All of Helens strengths are all things LS already has, to go into partnership LS needed someone to bring something different to the table ie creativity in making new products. Helen didn't have this ability.

Tbh her original business plan was so bad so dire that the alternative would have done her some favours, indeed had she been up against Jim, she would have won as a result of that single move. The thing is with everyone else, if their business plan sucks that's it for them. With Tom, give him a week and he's come up with another dozen new products, add that to his current product which has huge untapped potential, then it doesn't become close between the two. Tom is a far better choice to LS than Helen.

If Helen is smart she'll apply for top manager position nationwide because she's clearly being wasted as an 'assistant'.
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Glad to see Tom win, good to see that nice guys don't always finish last

Was disappointed with Helen and Jim, felt they both bottled it with their business plans. And Helen in my opinion was a pretty sore loser, coming out with that bakery idea right at the last minute.
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I think Helen deserved to win but her business plan wasn't that great ( felt so sorry for her, she works so hard).

But Lord Sugar chose Tom because he does have more business potential, so i guess he made the right decision.

Tom's curvy nail file looks pretty good...and Helen looked stunning in purple with her hair down
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(Original post by KP 2010)
Oh I see. So it's basically impossible to break into the beauty industry.
No. But basically you need even more money than just 250.000 pounds. JesusRevived got it spot on. I guess LS could actually do it if he put ALL his money into it. Like ten or hundreds of millions. But why gamble the lot.

BTW: look at the back of 2 diffirent brands of shampoo closely. By law, all ingredients must be stated accurately. You will find that two regular shampoos barely differ technically.
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3rd May 2011:

(Original post by NJA)
Having scanned the interviews I'm most looking forward to seeing Thomas Pellereau in action. Susan Ma is also likeable. The people using the buzz-words like "driven", "110%", "deliver" have already spent too long talking instead of doing and look like being crashing bores.
I could go into recruitment.
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