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    The reshuffle seems to have been a great success, though naturally Corbyn's being criticised, just as he would've been whatever he'd done.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    The reshuffle seems to have been a great success, though naturally Corbyn's being criticised, just as he would've been whatever he'd done.
    Kicking Pat McFaddon (Europe Minister) for saying that Terrorists are responsible for their own actions, is not an success, its a great failure.
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    (Original post by LovepreetDhillon)
    Kicking Pat McFaddon (Europe Minister) for saying that Terrorists are responsible for their own actions, is not an success, its a great failure.
    One small mistake in a process which included the great triumphs of getting rid of the toxic cancer known as Dugher and promoting Emily Thornberry can be forgiven.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    One small mistake in a process which included the great triumphs of getting rid of the toxic cancer known as Dugher and promoting Emily Thornberry can be forgiven.
    Beforehand I would of disagreed with you on Dugher, his petulant reaction changes that.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    One small mistake in a process which included the great triumphs of getting rid of the toxic cancer known as Dugher and promoting Emily Thornberry can be forgiven.
    Calling Dugher, whos was a 'straight honest talker' on the front bench, toxic cancer is really nasty, so much for the kinder politics.As for Emily, who dosent like people who drive white vans didn't really deserve a promotion. I would have preferred Dan Jarvis who was an ex-soldier and would have made a great Defence Secretary.
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    (Original post by LovepreetDhillon)
    Calling Dugher, whos was a 'straight honest talker' on the front bench, toxic cancer is really nasty, so much for the kinder politics.As for Emily, who dosent like people who drive white vans didn't really deserve a promotion. I would have preferred Dan Jarvis who was an ex-soldier and would have made a great Defence Secretary.
    I don't give a damn about the 'kinder' politics, Corbyn is far too libertarian and too economically right-wing for me. As for your Thornberry comment, I don't see your objection to one funny tweet (I'm pretty sure the element she was pointing out was the St George's Crosses). IMO ex-soldiers should be kept out of defence as from my experience of talking to people in the military, they always support dramatically over-funding the military (or continuing to do so).
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    (Original post by LovepreetDhillon)
    Calling Dugher, whos was a 'straight honest talker' on the front bench, toxic cancer is really nasty, so much for the kinder politics.As for Emily, who dosent like people who drive white vans didn't really deserve a promotion. I would have preferred Dan Jarvis who was an ex-soldier and would have made a great Defence Secretary.
    He was entirely disloyal to Corbyn and arguably incompetent so shouldn't complain at being sacked. His twitter bio is that of a petulant toddler. Thornberry doesn't detest those who drive white vans she took one stupid photo. Jarvis is massively inexperienced and pro-trident.
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    (Original post by LovepreetDhillon)
    Calling Dugher, whos was a 'straight honest talker' on the front bench, toxic cancer is really nasty, so much for the kinder politics.As for Emily, who dosent like people who drive white vans didn't really deserve a promotion. I would have preferred Dan Jarvis who was an ex-soldier and would have made a great Defence Secretary.
    Dugher openly sneered at Corbyn's new politics and tried to undermine him. That's unacceptable when the party is 7 points behind in the polls and needs to present a united front to attack the Tories.

    I would have preferred Jarvis too, but to say that Emily Thornberry doesn't like men in white vans based on the fact that she posted a photo of a house covered in English flags - not a common sight where she lives - and posted 'A house in Rochester' as a caption is a little too much of an extrapolation tbh.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    I don't give a damn about the 'kinder' politics, Corbyn is far too libertarian and too economically right-wing for me. As for your Thornberry comment, I don't see your objection to one funny tweet (I'm pretty sure the element she was pointing out was the St George's Crosses). IMO ex-soldiers should be kept out of defence as from my experience of talking to people in the military, they always support dramatically over-funding the military (or continuing to do so).
    Well if you dont give a damn about the kinder politics I have no idea why you are supporting his neverending reshuffle.


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    He was entirely disloyal to Corbyn and arguably incompetent so shouldn't complain at being sacked. His twitter bio is that of a petulant toddler. Thornberry doesn't detest those who drive white vans she took one stupid photo. Jarvis is massively inexperienced and pro-trident.
    Dugher is an intelligent man and in my opinion will be more of a loss on the front bench than a gain to lose him. On the topic of Jarvis, what I meant to say way people who are from the military should be given the job to take charge of it as they know most about it. Also I am pro-trident, as are most of the Labour party.
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    (Original post by LovepreetDhillon)
    Well if you dont give a damn about the kinder politics I have no idea why you are supporting his neverending reshuffle.
    Because he's certainly the best of a bad bunch of 'electable' politicians - I can't support the Greens because they insist on naive environmental policies.
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    (Original post by LovepreetDhillon)
    Dugher is an intelligent man and in my opinion will be more of a loss on the front bench than a gain to lose him. On the topic of Jarvis, what I meant to say way people who are from the military should be given the job to take charge of it as they know most about it. Also I am pro-trident, as are most of the Labour party.
    He's a petulant toddler and he really wasn't doing a great job. As TDA says ex military people almost always want an overfunded army, an actual expert I would understand. The pro-trident stuff is *******s unless you restrict labour to the PLP.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Because he's certainly the best of a bad bunch of 'electable' politicians - I can't support the Greens because they insist on naive environmental policies.
    (Original post by United1892)
    He's a petulant toddler and he really wasn't doing a great job. As TDA says ex military people almost always want an overfunded army, an actual expert I would understand. The pro-trident stuff is *******s unless you restrict labour to the PLP.
    Fair enough guys
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Dugher openly sneered at Corbyn's new politics and tried to undermine him. That's unacceptable when the party is 7 points behind in the polls and needs to present a united front to attack the Tories.

    I would have preferred Jarvis too, but to say that Emily Thornberry doesn't like men in white vans based on the fact that she posted a photo of a house covered in English flags - not a common sight where she lives - and posted 'A house in Rochester' as a caption is a little too much of an extrapolation tbh.
    There not a common sight anywhere. Most flags don't have free England flags.
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    (Original post by United1892)
    There not a common sight anywhere. Most flags don't have free England flags.
    Even less so in London though. Point remains though, she was just pointing out a curiosity, not mocking or sneering.
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    Even less so in London though. Point remains though, she was just pointing out a curiosity, not mocking or sneering.
    I pretty much only see them around World Cup time, I'd be half inclined, although not after this incident, to take a photo and show my friends/follows. One thing to be proud of your Country, another to have three flags outside your house.
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    I don't consider myself a Corbynite but Dugher absolutely had to go. He was fantastic in his actual brief but vastly overstepped what I would consider constructive dissent.
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    (Original post by United1892)
    He was entirely disloyal to Corbyn and arguably incompetent so shouldn't complain at being sacked. His twitter bio is that of a petulant toddler. Thornberry doesn't detest those who drive white vans she took one stupid photo. Jarvis is massively inexperienced and pro-trident.
    Doesn't detest white van men, apparently, are you also going to tell us that she cares about the wellbeing of our troops?

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    Doesn't detest white van men, apparently, are you also going to tell us that she cares about the wellbeing of our troops?

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    Her brothers a builder who needs to drive a van for a living the entire idea is stupid. Yes obviously she does.
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