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    (Original post by Lawz-)
    I have no intention of guessing on an internet forum so as to make it clearer who I am. Sufficed to say that it isnt hard to figure out and that if you choose not to believe me that is your business.

    Sufficed to say that I am truly upset you are at ChCh. Perhaps you would consider leaving and joining some suitable supremacist group?
    Just naming the one person you know who it is won't give away who you are.
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    (Original post by wacabac)
    Just naming the one person you know who it is won't give away who you are.
    Perhaps, but perhaps it will give an indication to you given that you know or can find out what I studied. It was a small course.

    To be honest, as it is you might be able to figure it out. I dont really care. As I said in reply to your PM - I have no intention of debating anything with someone so full of prejudice against me.
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    afro caribbean isnt a colour, its where you come from. a white or asian west indian would be equally welcome because they come from the carribean. the same goes for africa.

    having a white society cant be compared to this. it would be better if you said an english / british society. and actually there are lots of societies running from caucasian dominated countries such as the french society or german society.
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    Where the **** did this come from?
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    (Original post by ebonynatural)
    afro caribbean isnt a colour, its where you come from. a white or asian west indian would be equally welcome because they come from the carribean. the same goes for africa.

    having a white society cant be compared to this. it would be better if you said an english / british society. and actually there are lots of societies running from caucasian dominated countries such as the french society or german society.
    congratulations, you've found a thread from 18 months ago and tried to start an arguement....
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    (Original post by ebonynatural)
    afro caribbean isnt a colour, its where you come from. a white or asian west indian would be equally welcome because they come from the carribean. the same goes for africa.

    having a white society cant be compared to this. it would be better if you said an english / british society. and actually there are lots of societies running from caucasian dominated countries such as the french society or german society.
    yes, thats why its called "afro carribean" instead of "carribean":rolleyes:

    Why the "afro"? its an ethnic term you '****
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    It's kind of off point, but there has been a group set up on facebook for Sikhs, with lots of racist comment such as, in a poem, "my stupidity led me to Western trends"

    I, found this racist, however no Sikh people,in the group did

    I would appreciate your comments on whether you think it is racist, and even if it doesn't fall into the strict defintion of racist, i'm sure if a group of Non Sikhs were to set up a group, including a poem "my stupidity led me to Sikh trends" that would be deemed racist, wouldn't it?
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    A bit of confusion is resulting from the use of the words "black" and "white". Blacks in Britain are a minority, and many have strong cultural connections with particular parts of the world - Ghana, Nigeria, Jamaica for example. There are also certain shared cultural experiences that may be said to be "or black origin" e.g. the dominance of black artists in hip hop and RnB. As such, "black" is a metonym, which encompasses a cultural ecperience, not simply a race in the physical sense. Black thus refers more to a presumed cultural experience, which is not necessarily in toto comparable to the mainstream of society. Such groups provide a means for cultural interaction rather than segregation. So that's not to say white people don't listen to RnR or hip hop, or have no interest in matters relating to race, but the significant "discriminatory" criteria is cultural, not especially racialist. In summary, there is, in this country, a "black" cultural experience that is defined against a white majority background. This is so partly because minorities in a given country tend to lead their lives in dstinct social and demographic groups. Being a minority of any sort, is something that takes pace on a socially narrow front. In Ireland for example, many of the ascendancy British will share a similar story. Just as in the former colonies, the white minorities will have a shared experience that can't easily be separated from their status as minorities. They live similar lives, in a sense, or at least have some shared story that applied to them as a minority, and isn't especially relevant to the majority. It's partly a numbers thing.

    I don't really know if "white" as a racial descriptor carries the same conotations of a shared (or a presumed) cultural experience. This is simply by virtue of the fact that, being a majority group, the cultural experience of being white and British is not as narrow as it would be for a minority group - there are few issues that arise in living in Britain that are exclusively or significantly the result of being white; whereas many that result from the very status of being gay, asia, black, female, a child, aged, a teacher or a christian. Furthermore, the opportunities to experience the majority culture, is so broad and ubiquitous that it is hard to justify on purely practical grounds, the need for a club which discriminated on the basis of race in the case of a "White Society". There would be no practical reason for that kind of implicit discrimination, as there is in minority clubs - of any sort, from trade unions to bridge-players societies. On what basis would they justify a discriminatory membership other than the fact that they did not want people of X race to be members? If there is no practical justification for a discriminatory policy it is often simply racist and/malicious. By way of analogyn, I don't see it as sexist for, say, a Woman Executives Society to exist, because the challenges that women face as a minority in many professions, are different from those that men face - and, most importantly, those challenges often arise as a direct or indirect result of their being women. In the same way, a Black Society would probably exist not to discriminate against others, but to try and share a particular cultural experience that is inextricably linked with being black in a largely white country. Let's be sensible about these things.
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    (Original post by ebonynatural)
    afro caribbean isnt a colour, its where you come from. a white or asian west indian would be equally welcome because they come from the carribean. the same goes for africa.

    having a white society cant be compared to this. it would be better if you said an english / british society. and actually there are lots of societies running from caucasian dominated countries such as the french society or german society.
    Thread necromancy is like so not totally cool.
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    (Original post by Cluedo89)
    we see afro carribian societys we see asian societys at most universitys and i understand this can be because they are minoritys.
    what do you think
    There are plenty of white societies like Brüder Schweigen, Combat 18 and Aryan Nations. :rolleyes:

    And if you want a white church there is the Church of Jesus Christ Christian.
    http://www.aryannations.org/banner1.jpg :eek:

    http://www.salon.com/mwt/hot/1999/07/15/aryan_compound/
    http://www.salon.com/mwt/hot/1999/07...n_compound.jpg
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    Not a lot of Combat 18 societies at universities, are there?
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    Would non-whites be allowed to join the "White Society"(lol) if it existed?

    As an Asian, I've joined my uni's ACS society because of the fact that some of my interests are more in tune with 'black culture' than mainstream culture, eg. when I go on a night out, I want to hear dancehall etc, not just Sean Paul or some dance ****. The ACS isn't just for black people, there's some whites, asians etc in it too.

    But the concept of a white only society can't allow other races into it in the same manner can it?
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    (Original post by Libertinus Septentrionalis)
    Not a lot of Combat 18 societies at universities, are there?
    I know that there is a chapter of Combat 18 at Sheffield Hallam.
    And probably at other universities in the UK as well.
    Overseas, there are chapters of Combat 18 at Jean Moulin University in France and at Warsaw University.

    Sadly, racist scum breed like racist scum.
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    Everyone should just read Gilliwoo's excellent thread.
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    (Original post by fscksleep)
    There are plenty of white societies like Brüder Schweigen, Combat 18 and Aryan Nations. :rolleyes:

    And if you want a white church there is the Church of Jesus Christ Christian.
    http://www.aryannations.org/banner1.jpg :eek:

    http://www.salon.com/mwt/hot/1999/07/15/aryan_compound/
    http://www.salon.com/mwt/hot/1999/07...n_compound.jpg
    OMFG! The QM Afro-Caribbean society want to hurt me?!?!


    FFS :rolleyes:
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    Woaaah woah woah woah, black people go to university?
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    (Original post by fscksleep)
    I know that there is a chapter of Combat 18 at Sheffield Hallam.
    And probably at other universities in the UK as well.
    Don't be stupid. Perhaps unofficially, but officially and receiving funds from the student union as all societies registered do? No there is not.
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    (Original post by Thud)
    Don't be stupid. Perhaps unofficially, but officially and receiving funds from the student union as all societies registered do? No there is not.
    Of course it is not supported by the university or the student union or by the Church or the ADL for that matter :rolleyes:

    However, Combat 18 do have an official branch at Sheffield Hallam.
    Official in this context means recognised and accepted by the main Combat 18 headquarters.
    And for racist whites, that should be enough.
    They can have the dubious joy of joining an evil and violent pro-white, neo-nazi, pseudoAryan, antisemitic group. :rolleyes:
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    Perhaps you are failing to draw the distinction between student union affiliated societies (who receive government and student funding, are allowed to meet and advertise within the student union and it's publications and who are scrutinised and approved by the student union general committee (or equivalent)) and an external society.

    Have you considered Trolling as a professional career?
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    (Original post by fscksleep)
    Of course it is not supported by the university or the student union or by the Church or the ADL for that matter :rolleyes:

    However, Combat 18 do have an official branch at Sheffield Hallam.
    Official in this context means recognised and accepted by the main Combat 18 headquarters.
    And for racist whites, that should be enough.
    They can have the dubious joy of joining an evil and violent pro-white, neo-nazi, pseudoAryan, antisemitic group. :rolleyes:
    C18 headquarters? :laugh: Do you know what you're talking about you moron?


    I don't think it's a case of "perhaps" Renal, I think it's a case of "definitely".
 
 
 
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