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    (Original post by Megh01)
    yeah I forgot to mention acme and Septimius and poem 64 messed up that question majorly :' oh well
    If you addressed the question and talked about relevant stuff, I'm sure you'll have done fine
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    For the commentary questions how should the answers be structure? Would it be better to find three main points as the basis for three paragraphs or to just go through the passage from top to bottom and find as many style points as possible?
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    (Original post by Megh01)
    For the commentary questions how should the answers be structure? Would it be better to find three main points as the basis for three paragraphs or to just go through the passage from top to bottom and find as many style points as possible?
    I'm not totally sure - for the poetry I chose three couplets and totally pulled them apart, but for the prose I'm personally more inclined to just go through the passage. I think both thematic and chronological approaches work well - but some extracts lend themselves more to one or the other. The most important thing is to make sure you cover the whole prescription rather than doing as I usually do, which is going into too much detail at the beginning of the extract and then running out of time for the second half. I think it's really a personal choice - whatever you feel most comfortable with.
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    (Original post by candycake)
    I'm not totally sure - for the poetry I chose three couplets and totally pulled them apart, but for the prose I'm personally more inclined to just go through the passage. I think both thematic and chronological approaches work well - but some extracts lend themselves more to one or the other. The most important thing is to make sure you cover the whole prescription rather than doing as I usually do, which is going into too much detail at the beginning of the extract and then running out of time for the second half. I think it's really a personal choice - whatever you feel most comfortable with.
    I agree re the approaches, with the Virgil/Catullus the style is much easier to find and less content points are needed. However in Tacitus, there is not as much style, and what is there is much harder to find, therefore a Thematic approach might be easier (it totally depends on the passage and the question) and most of the tacitus questions in past paper reflect this, as most say "how is a character portrayed in this passage" or something like that, it is not just "how is it emotional" like the aeneid as there is not enough style for that.
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    Ok and also for the prose then, what's most likely is to get given two passages on which to comment so no overarching questions like in the verse. So latin quotations needed in both commentary answers here and would you need to reference other parts of Annals 4 as a whole or try and stay focused on the set passage given and the style and content of that?
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    In the past, there has typically been one question with more of a "style" angle and one with more of a "content" angle. Although you MUST mention both in each commentary, as others have pointed out you tend to get a "what impression do you get of PERSON'S NAME in this passage?" question, and a "how does AUTHOR make this a vivid description of THING?" one.

    On the old Tacitus prescription it was usually "what impression do you get of Nero" and "how does Tacitus create a picture of corruption/vividly describe the fire of Rome" etc. I would guess you'll get a Sejanus/Tiberius/Agrippina question at least. Pliny is a bit trickier - character-wise it could either be one of the subjects of his letters (Corellius Rufus/Verginius Rufus/Macedo/Regulus) or even something on Pliny himself (chariot races, or one of the Rufus letters perhaps). I'm hoping the dolphin letter will come up for a style-focused question, but that's just because it's my favourite

    The questions have always been based purely on what's in the printed passage in the past. I am assuming they won't rock the boat in this regard now - but of course you'll all know the whole prescription...
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    (Original post by BluWacky)
    In the past, there has typically been one question with more of a "style" angle and one with more of a "content" angle. Although you MUST mention both in each commentary, as others have pointed out you tend to get a "what impression do you get of PERSON'S NAME in this passage?" question, and a "how does AUTHOR make this a vivid description of THING?" one.

    On the old Tacitus prescription it was usually "what impression do you get of Nero" and "how does Tacitus create a picture of corruption/vividly describe the fire of Rome" etc. I would guess you'll get a Sejanus/Tiberius/Agrippina question at least. Pliny is a bit trickier - character-wise it could either be one of the subjects of his letters (Corellius Rufus/Verginius Rufus/Macedo/Regulus) or even something on Pliny himself (chariot races, or one of the Rufus letters perhaps). I'm hoping the dolphin letter will come up for a style-focused question, but that's just because it's my favourite

    The questions have always been based purely on what's in the printed passage in the past. I am assuming they won't rock the boat in this regard now - but of course you'll all know the whole prescription...
    Hi, just wondering which passage they would give us on Agrippina, were they to ask a question? I haven't prepped her - I thought as far as characters are concerned it'd be Sej or Tib! Thanks
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    Hiya, Aggrippina would probably be in 12 (where Sejanus attacks her ) but there isn't much on her to be honest
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    For the Tacitus can someone confirm I've got this right ; Tacitus mentions the murder of drusus, then details the result of it (Tiberius going to senate etc) and the aftermath (funeral) then an excursus back to look at the rumour of the time for an alternative version of events - the idea that drusus had planned to kill tiberius but ended up drinking the poison himself out of fear and shame, then tacitus refutes the rumour. Is there another rumour that tiberius killed drusus aswell? (chapter 11 where it says ; why would tiberius offer ruin to his son, with his own hand and with no opening for reconciliation etc?)
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    (Original post by Megh01)
    For the Tacitus can someone confirm I've got this right ; Tacitus mentions the murder of drusus, then details the result of it (Tiberius going to senate etc) and the aftermath (funeral) then an excursus back to look at the rumour of the time for an alternative version of events - the idea that drusus had planned to kill tiberius but ended up drinking the poison himself out of fear and shame, then tacitus refutes the rumour. Is there another rumour that tiberius killed drusus aswell? (chapter 11 where it says ; why would tiberius offer ruin to his son, with his own hand and with no opening for reconciliation etc?)
    I think there is only one rumour (please someone correct me if I'm wrong). The fact that Tacitus says that Tiberius killed Drusus by his own hand refers to the fact that he supposedly handed Drusus the poisoned goblet (thus inflicting his death) rather than running an inquiry to discover who the true poisoner was.
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    How is anyone proposing to tackle commentaries on Pliny? There doesn't exactly seem to be a copious amount of styling on his part
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    (Original post by GraingerTown)
    How is anyone proposing to tackle commentaries on Pliny? There doesn't exactly seem to be a copious amount of styling on his part
    Tbh I have no idea about structuring the essay but style wise he often uses chiasmus, tricolons, polyptoton sometimes alliteration. I think those are the easiest style features to find in the text
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    (Original post by GraingerTown)
    How is anyone proposing to tackle commentaries on Pliny? There doesn't exactly seem to be a copious amount of styling on his part
    The examiners' reports suggest either chronologically (which can be a bit tedious and disorganised, in my opinion) or splitting your answer into 3 or 4 themes and using relevant quotes and context points (backed up with stylistic elements) to answer the question.
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    (Original post by candycake)
    I think there is only one rumour (please someone correct me if I'm wrong). The fact that Tacitus says that Tiberius killed Drusus by his own hand refers to the fact that he supposedly handed Drusus the poisoned goblet (thus inflicting his death) rather than running an inquiry to discover who the true poisoner was.
    Your absolutely right on all counts. How is everyone feeling for the prose as opposed to the Verse, i feel like the set text questions will be harder, but (hopefully) the comprehension easier and the Livy (as its adapted) hopefully not as hard as unadulterated stuff? Praying for a nice translation or en enjoyable story..
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    (Original post by sargentsargent2)
    Your absolutely right on all counts. How is everyone feeling for the prose as opposed to the Verse, i feel like the set text questions will be harder, but (hopefully) the comprehension easier and the Livy (as its adapted) hopefully not as hard as unadulterated stuff? Praying for a nice translation or en enjoyable story..

    I think the Tacitus is much harder than the Aeneid and I'm nervous about the translation (doing prose comp). I had thought that the poetry paper would be the more difficult of the two but after the (I think) reasonable Ovid, this could be my downfall! I'm desperately hoping for managable vocab and no obscure constructions.
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    (Original post by candycake)
    I think the Tacitus is much harder than the Aeneid and I'm nervous about the translation (doing prose comp). I had thought that the poetry paper would be the more difficult of the two but after the (I think) reasonable Ovid, this could be my downfall! I'm desperately hoping for managable vocab and no obscure constructions.
    Oh god I'm exactly the same! Tacitus is FAR harder, and having found the Verse paper manageable i am now scared this one will be awful, and I've had less time to revise for it! And to top it all off, its in the morning!! Good luck doing prose comp, if I'm honest id rather do neither, hate translation but find prose comp even worse!
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    (Original post by sargentsargent2)
    Oh god I'm exactly the same! Tacitus is FAR harder, and having found the Verse paper manageable i am now scared this one will be awful, and I've had less time to revise for it! And to top it all off, its in the morning!! Good luck doing prose comp, if I'm honest id rather do neither, hate translation but find prose comp even worse!
    I'm having a last minute panic about whether I've made the right choice but I've got to stick with it now - I haven't practised any Livy. I think Livy is probably more difficult for me - if I don't know the vocab in Latin-English it totally throws me and in prose comp you can normally find a way around it. On the other hand, it's so easy to accidentally put a letter or two wrong and immediately lose a mark. I just want to get it over with now though - I have totally neglected my other subjects this week as I've been so focussed on the Latin. I will miss Latin though!
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    (Original post by candycake)
    I'm having a last minute panic about whether I've made the right choice but I've got to stick with it now - I haven't practised any Livy. I think Livy is probably more difficult for me - if I don't know the vocab in Latin-English it totally throws me and in prose comp you can normally find a way around it. On the other hand, it's so easy to accidentally put a letter or two wrong and immediately lose a mark. I just want to get it over with now though - I have totally neglected my other subjects this week as I've been so focussed on the Latin. I will miss Latin though!
    Im sat here feeling like i don't really know the Tactius and that I'm going to be stumped in the exam, as i knew the Aeneid already as i do classics too! You will be fine, I'm sure your prose comp is nailed. As long as you break it down chunk by chunk and work methodically it will be fine I'm sure! Im desperate to get it out the way but will miss Latin a lot, quite sad actually haha.
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    (Original post by sargentsargent2)
    Im sat here feeling like i don't really know the Tactius and that I'm going to be stumped in the exam, as i knew the Aeneid already as i do classics too! You will be fine, I'm sure your prose comp is nailed. As long as you break it down chunk by chunk and work methodically it will be fine I'm sure! Im desperate to get it out the way but will miss Latin a lot, quite sad actually haha.
    I'm sure it will all turn out fine but if the worst comes to the worst at least there's no direct translation. I'm planning to just pick out the few sentences I can remember if it all goes wrong and hopefully there'll be enough style and content to talk about. No doubt you've put the work in - so it will all come flooding back with the adrenaline in the exam room!
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    (Original post by candycake)
    I'm sure it will all turn out fine but if the worst comes to the worst at least there's no direct translation. I'm planning to just pick out the few sentences I can remember if it all goes wrong and hopefully there'll be enough style and content to talk about. No doubt you've put the work in - so it will all come flooding back with the adrenaline in the exam room!
    Oh i really hope so, I hope its just the pre-exam stress coming to scare me! Yes, I'm sure if it all goes wrong word choice could become key.
 
 
 
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