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    (Original post by Honey126)
    Oh stop with this BS really this is your solution to stopping terrorism?
    Yes. Whats yours?
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Yes. Whats yours?
    Stop allowing them to come here in the first place?
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    Is this EDL/Britain First site? Some of the threads look like they were copied from there...
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    (Original post by Cin.Na.)
    Yes please.

    Everybody who doesn't obey the laws to be put back out of Europe, no matter forcefully or not.

    Law is for everybody not only for the natives, otherwise it is not law but discrimination in a Nazi scale.

    All these fake 'refugees' many times broke the law and passed many borders against the law plus other offences. Europe doesn't need criminals and anti-social savages.


    All of them, no matter how, to be brought back out of Europe, I don't care where, but not here. They don't belong to Europe and don't want to belong.


    Get them all out of Europe, I don't care where, let them flee Mediterranean again. If they found a way to come, they will find a way to get back too.


    Nobody owes them anything. They are not invited from the common people and with the agreement of the common people. Politicians can pay their bills from their own pockets, I don't want to pay political mistakes.


    Get them out of here, immediately. If other Muslims living in Europe resist, get them out too. Who doesn't want to belong and respect European culture, is kindly invited to leave it in peace.
    I think Ace was talking about all muslims in europe, not only the ones who don't respect european culture.
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    (Original post by Cin.Na.)
    Stop making excuses.

    Europe doesn't want Islam. Take it as it is.


    Forcing people to like an aggressive and nasty religion doesn't give you a favour, it only creates resentment and hate.


    No matter how you Muslims insist, no matter how you lie and force Europeans, that makes it even worse. Stop at all forcing people to believe in your Islamic lies, people don't want Islam nor Muslims around.

    When you all will realise that more push and force over common people only will raise the scale of violence and at the end you will finish defended with no mercy. It is your mistake to force people and to make them defend from you and your ugly Middle ages religion.


    People don't want you, simple. Can you please take your religion back in the Middle East and stop forcing people to accept it?

    If people don't accept it so be it. Why do you need to force them?
    Good luck forcing people out of their own countries. What are you gonna do, nuke albania, bosnia, and pieces of bulgaria? Force loyal british citizens out of the country which has been their home since they were born, and the home of their family for generations? You cannot judge all muslims based upon the ideology that you believe they're meant to hold. Even if what you think is Islam is indeed the 'true' islam, or at least the form of islam observed by the majority of europeans, you can plainly see that the majority of european muslims are at least semi-secularised by looking around.

    Give up collectivism. It is a ridiculous point of view shared by both neo-progressivist fools and neo-fascists. You might as well judge all jews for violently pursued zionism just because there are verses reviling goyim/non jews in the talmud.
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    (Original post by Hasan_Ahmed)
    You might as well judge all jews for violently pursued zionism just because there are verses reviling goyim/non jews in the talmud.
    How many people were beheaded by Jews in the name of Talmud?
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    (Original post by admonit)
    How many people were beheaded by Jews in the name of Talmud?
    I don't think that the method of killing is important, but the fact that killing happens and has happened. Go read about the original aggressive israelite conquests of Canaan. If you want a modern example, then look to Israel.
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    Looks like Britain first have taken over Student room hmm...
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    (Original post by Hasan_Ahmed)
    I don't think that the method of killing is important
    Islamic terrorists think otherwise.
    Go read about the original aggressive israelite conquests of Canaan. If you want a modern example, then look to Israel.
    It's ridiculous today to point out the biblical events of 3000 years ago. And Israel is not a religious but a national state.
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    (Original post by admonit)
    Islamic terrorists think otherwise.

    It's ridiculous today to point out the biblical events of 3000 years ago. And Israel is not a religious but a national state.
    It's what they do that matters, not what they think. Whether they behead people or not is inconsequential, they're still taking innocent lives.
    Yes, it's ridiculous to point things out from 3000 years ago, but it's also ridiculous to push blame for acts of one ideological faction of a religion onto another - especially when the factions not responsible for terrorism are so often victims of it. 10s of thousands of innocent shias and moderate sunnis have been murdered by wahaabis, and yet it's our responsibility to apologise? No.
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    No, of course we shouldn't be considering banning Islam and immigration from Islamic countries. Only a moron would think that.
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    (Original post by avfcfan)
    Looks like Britain first have taken over Student room hmm...
    Perhaps that is just how the general public feel.


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    (Original post by Honey126)
    Stop allowing them to come here in the first place?
    Too late, there are 40 odd million muslims in Europe. A solution to islamic extremism is needed
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    (Original post by Hasan_Ahmed)
    It's what they do that matters, not what they think. Whether they behead people or not is inconsequential, they're still taking innocent lives.
    Yes, it's ridiculous to point things out from 3000 years ago, but it's also ridiculous to push blame for acts of one ideological faction of a religion onto another - especially when the factions not responsible for terrorism are so often victims of it. 10s of thousands of innocent shias and moderate sunnis have been murdered by wahaabis, and yet it's our responsibility to apologise? No.
    Their version of Islam does not see them as Muslims the same way the vast majorities of normal muslims do not see a man whom identifies as gay and muslim as a muslim

    Nobody wants or expects muslims to apologise for terrorist actions, we want normal muslims to shed the victim status and lead in the fight back against radical interpretations of your holy scriptures because the west doing so or using military solutions will not resolve the issue
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    (Original post by Hasan_Ahmed)
    It's what they do that matters, not what they think. Whether they behead people or not is inconsequential, they're still taking innocent lives.
    The matter is what they believe and why they kill people. How they kill people also is important, because it shows how ugly is the beast borne by Islam.
    Yes, it's ridiculous to point things out from 3000 years ago, but it's also ridiculous to push blame for acts of one ideological faction of a religion onto another - especially when the factions not responsible for terrorism are so often victims of it. 10s of thousands of innocent shias and moderate sunnis have been murdered by wahaabis
    Millions of Muslims were killed by Muslims. Today they also are killing each other blaming each other being a sect. Why non-Muslims should suffer because of it? Where new members of ISIS are coming from? From Muslim communities all over the world.
    and yet it's our responsibility to apologise? No.
    To apologize? I don't see even clear and unconditional condemnation. Is killing of 130 people in the name of Allah less insulting for Muslims than unpleasant pictures of prophet Muhammad in a danish newspaper? Where are mass protests? Oh, sorry, about 100 Iranians came to the french embassy to express sympathy to France. Great. When there is an opportunity to chant "Death to America! Death to Israel" tens of thousands are easily assembled.

    It is not enough to cite the words (taken originally from Talmud) about great value of human life, you also should implement them.
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    ok, that female suicide bomber she wore the veil only for a month before the attacks she had never read to qur'an before she was known to have many many boyfriends she didnt care about the religion and she drank all the time
    please do not associate these people with islam if they do not even know what the qur'an says

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    (Original post by admonit)
    The matter is what they believe and why they kill people. How they kill people also is important, because it shows how ugly is the beast borne by Islam.

    Millions of Muslims were killed by Muslims. Today they also are killing each other blaming each other being a sect. Why non-Muslims should suffer because of it? Where new members of ISIS are coming from? From Muslim communities all over the world.

    To apologize? I don't see even clear and unconditional condemnation. Is killing of 130 people in the name of Allah less insulting for Muslims than unpleasant pictures of prophet Muhammad in a danish newspaper? Where are mass protests? Oh, sorry, about 100 Iranians came to the french embassy to express sympathy to France. Great. When there is an opportunity to chant "Death to America! Death to Israel" tens of thousands are easily assembled.

    It is not enough to cite the words (taken originally from Talmud) about great value of human life, you also should implement them.
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Their version of Islam does not see them as Muslims the same way the vast majorities of normal muslims do not see a man whom identifies as gay and muslim as a muslim

    Nobody wants or expects muslims to apologise for terrorist actions, we want normal muslims to shed the victim status and lead in the fight back against radical interpretations of your holy scriptures because the west doing so or using military solutions will not resolve the issue
    Muslims should shed the victim status, it's ridiculous. But no, there are people who demand normal muslims with 'are you with us against them, or against us?' kind of questions - as if we need to be asked - especially shia muslims, whose co-adherents in the third world are the primary victims of wahaabi murder and rape.
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    (Original post by admonit)
    The matter is what they believe and why they kill people. How they kill people also is important, because it shows how ugly is the beast borne by Islam.

    Millions of Muslims were killed by Muslims. Today they also are killing each other blaming each other being a sect. Why non-Muslims should suffer because of it? Where new members of ISIS are coming from? From Muslim communities all over the world.

    To apologize? I don't see even clear and unconditional condemnation. Is killing of 130 people in the name of Allah less insulting for Muslims than unpleasant pictures of prophet Muhammad in a danish newspaper? Where are mass protests? Oh, sorry, about 100 Iranians came to the french embassy to express sympathy to France. Great. When there is an opportunity to chant "Death to America! Death to Israel" tens of thousands are easily assembled.

    It is not enough to cite the words (taken originally from Talmud) about great value of human life, you also should implement them.
    If you don't see clear and unconditional condemnation, either you're blind, or you're only looking at the news at a superficial level. Or perhaps you don't check to see if there are any condemnations? You realise that it's not sensationalist enough when we condemn it for us to make it into the big news? Evidence:

    http://muslimmatters.org/2015/11/14/...slim-response/

    http://muslimmatters.org/2015/08/24/...gery-part-one/

    http://i100.independent.co.uk/articl...ow--b1V6zQTOKe

    http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/...ink-again.html

    http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/

    http://www.ibtimes.com/isis-ramadan-...h-time-1990904

    http://www.ibtimes.com/india-muslim-...slamic-2083620

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/to...ligion-137976/

    http://bridge.georgetown.edu/here-ar...n-looking-for/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmgGG8CbsLI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAxIOC8Zisc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hMy3e2x5e8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAWOS9Ac44

    You have now indicated your failure to differentiate between muslim groups by talking about it in terms of 'them muslims killing each other' in a situation where there is a clear oppressive group (wahaabis) and several groups subjected to persecution - shi'a, ahmediyya, moderate sunnis, mutazzili, ibadi.
    Look objectively and take your 'us vs them' glasses off.
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    There are your mass protests.
 
 
 
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